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45. He should have vetoed it based on spending alone...

Reply to Cal33 (Original post)

Fri Dec 16, 2011, 05:26 PM

Dec 2011

With everything else added, it should've been an easy veto.

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Before getting all steamed up about Obama's not vetoing the bill, ask yourself, [View all] Cal33 Dec 2011 OP

I trust the ACLU. Hell Hath No Fury Dec 2011 #1

I trust and support the ACLU also. But how long has this new National Defense bill Cal33 Dec 2011 #7

Here's from ACLU today. Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #14

If we said we trusted President Obama treestar Dec 2011 #43

Where do intend to learn more? dogknob Dec 2011 #2

Unfortunately, I don't know of any source that will provide reliable last-minue information. Cal33 Dec 2011 #11

ACLU, CCR and Human Rights Watch all can do that. nt EFerrari Dec 2011 #16

Thanks for the information. Cal33 Dec 2011 #26

What happened to his promise to close Gitmo? rhett o rick Dec 2011 #3

Actually, passing this bill could enable him to finally do that. phleshdef Dec 2011 #10

it gives this President and ANY FUTURE President the power to detain or not indefinitely. period. piratefish08 Dec 2011 #28

Only if you believe in oversimplified, wholly inaccurate bullshit. phleshdef Dec 2011 #39

More rational thinking Anatos Dec 2011 #52

Then read parts of the bill.. SomethingFishy Dec 2011 #4

I clicked on the link above and got another link. I clicked on the second link Cal33 Dec 2011 #27

I like the Library of Congress "Thomas" site for reading legislation bhikkhu Dec 2011 #57

Many thanks. I do appreciate it. Cal33 Dec 2011 #59

We're leaving Iraq ... and the last thing we should do is know that. JoePhilly Dec 2011 #5

Thanks for bringing a note of sanity to the frenzy flamingdem Dec 2011 #6

If you see me post "Obama Bad Obama Bad Obama Bad" ... JoePhilly Dec 2011 #8

Obama can stop being bad and Congress can stop being worse and much of it would solve TheKentuckian Dec 2011 #21

Ohhhh scary .... get the fainting couch. JoePhilly Dec 2011 #29

There was something in the OP about reading legislation before jumping to conclusions... bhikkhu Dec 2011 #58

He doesn't make it very difficult for them to do that. nt Modern_Matthew Dec 2011 #46

How so? Anatos Dec 2011 #53

"Because to keep ratings UP, they need the election to be close." I assume Cal33 Dec 2011 #15

You have pretty much nailed what is going on. emulatorloo Dec 2011 #19

On that ratings thing... Anatos Dec 2011 #24

Once the GOP picks their "ahem" candidate ... JoePhilly Dec 2011 #38

You act as if Anatos Dec 2011 #47

Oh sure ... no disagreement that they would pretend to not JoePhilly Dec 2011 #54

They already are Anatos Dec 2011 #55

It's annoying. redqueen Dec 2011 #42

It is all about Anatos Dec 2011 #48

I smell Rove roseBudd Dec 2011 #9

Try toothpaste. Robb Dec 2011 #12

Or Lysol :) Ship of Fools Dec 2011 #13

"I smell Rove." The all-time big and weird sicko. I wonder how much longer this "era of sickos" Cal33 Dec 2011 #17

I could have done without Obama lying he was going to veto the bill. provis99 Dec 2011 #18

Mixed feelings karynnj Dec 2011 #20

No, he cannot because it only covers his administration. He should veto or fucking resign. TheKentuckian Dec 2011 #22

You know they do these appropriations bills every year, right? Robb Dec 2011 #31

How maddeningly cerebral of you Anatos Dec 2011 #23

Just a day or two ago I wrote in this forum that if someone like Sanders were to run Cal33 Dec 2011 #25

I honestly have no problem Anatos Dec 2011 #49

I'm pretty much convinced that the extremists of any political party, the fanatics in short, are Cal33 Dec 2011 #56

So...the mandatory insurance bill...makes indefinite detention of US citizens OK? Romulox Dec 2011 #30

I was just pointing out that I heard so many complaints about the Healthcare Reform Cal33 Dec 2011 #33

The "Healthcare Reform" bill forces Americans to buy private insurance; it's awful, and by no Romulox Dec 2011 #34

I admitted there were weaknesses in the Healthcare Reform bill, and also said that Cal33 Dec 2011 #37

That is all they got. comipinko Dec 2011 #36

Nor would I Anatos Dec 2011 #50

The OP claimed it was all too complicated for her, and that we should just trust authority. Romulox Dec 2011 #60

The OP claimed no such thing Anatos Dec 2011 #61

I miss the unrec. Logical Dec 2011 #32

From what I've seen Anatos Dec 2011 #51

A big UN-REC !! comipinko Dec 2011 #35

Trying to find anything good in that bill is like trying to find the clean end of a turd. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2011 #40

My intention was not to make this bill look good. I was simply saying to take Cal33 Dec 2011 #41

80%? I get better odds at the nearest tribal casino derby378 Dec 2011 #44

He should have vetoed it based on spending alone... Modern_Matthew Dec 2011 #45