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54. You're last paragraph is interesting, because it highlights what has been explained to me about S&M

Mon May 13, 2013, 11:40 AM

May 2013

"While with Sylvia, it was "Do this because I ask it of you, it makes me happy and you care enough about me you want me to be happy, and you trust I won't hurt you." That's why Don was in tears when she decided to leave. That part of their relationship, which means so much to him, is over".

The psychological explanation I've heard for BDSM is that it's really a search for Intimacy, which I find poignant.

These people, generally speaking, are those who can't find intimacy outside of a power relationship. Whether it's

the result of early conditioning, or whatever, they never experienced anything like unconditional love,

and they don't realize, sadly, that love has nothing to do with power. As an old saying goes, "You can have power

or you can have love, but you can't have both". Not, at least, with the same person.

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Don Draper is going to have a breakdown [View all] madaboutharry May 2013 OP

I'm watching it right now. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2013 #1

He needs to feel in control of something/someone. He doesn't feel in control of his wife anymore n/t Tx4obama May 2013 #2

He's being really creepy about it. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2013 #3

Neither should his wife, but since Hamm produced the show I guess she has to still_one May 2013 #5

John Slattery directed this one--and it's got his vibe all over it. MADem May 2013 #14

But Hamm produced it and that is where the money comes from, however, I was making a bad joke still_one May 2013 #23

Slattery has directed four, Hamm two thus far. Hamm has produced 19 shows. MADem May 2013 #24

Hamm does not provide funds, he is paid as a producer as part of his compensation deal Bluenorthwest May 2013 #37

+1...cheaper than a pay raise up front; they get it on the back end with syndication and DVD rights. MADem May 2013 #47

I don't think the character of his wife knows he's cheating on her yet. n/t whathehell May 2013 #55

That is exactly what it is still_one May 2013 #4

just finished watching. she broke it off. DesertFlower May 2013 #6

Her husband was giving Meghan's mom the once-over last week... nt MADem May 2013 #16

"You exist in this room for my pleasure." The Velveteen Ocelot May 2013 #7

Have you ever seen the film "Secretary" Tx4obama May 2013 #9

No, I might have to check that out. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2013 #10

You'll need a shower after watching that one jberryhill May 2013 #12

Hmmm ... a cold shower or a hot shower? Myrina May 2013 #29

A bleach one jberryhill May 2013 #30

Same here. It was nice to see BDSM handled in such a gentle way tavalon May 2013 #63

If you get off on that kind of thing, I guess. whathehell May 2013 #56

Matthew Weiner appealing to the Fifty Shades crowd, perhaps? MADem May 2013 #15

Ha! Good catch. I wonder if they planned it that way or if the air date was just a coincidence. n/t Tx4obama May 2013 #18

I'll bet it was deliberate. I am very impressed with Matthew Weiner. MADem May 2013 #20

Made me laugh too. That weasel. nolabear May 2013 #59

I didn't see it because I knew what it was about and I find that scene SOOO creepy, but whathehell May 2013 #51

I believe there is an entertainment forum at DU jberryhill May 2013 #8

Pete leaves a slime trail wherever he goes. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2013 #11

Yeah, but since you've mentioned Pete...just have to say "I can't stand Pete"! whathehell May 2013 #52

Pete's the best! JVS May 2013 #72

Yes, the thinking man's PeeWee Herman jberryhill May 2013 #73

That man is one hot mess. And Hamm is great. nolabear May 2013 #13

So is Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.... sadbear May 2013 #17

I'm a bit confused--anyone who has watched Mad Man up to season 6.... Moonwalk May 2013 #19

Well, I think you misread Sylvia. When she got that little red dress, she thought she was going MADem May 2013 #22

What's wrong with Nehru jackets? jberryhill May 2013 #31

Yeah, be a little "fashion forward" and go for The White Suit!!! MADem May 2013 #33

Ah, you've seen my video jberryhill May 2013 #35

OMG, that was HILARIOUS.....!!!!!!! MADem May 2013 #38

You misread both Sylvia and Don--and simplified both to the point where.... Moonwalk May 2013 #42

I disagree. I think you've over-complicated the character, and overlaid your own POV onto him. MADem May 2013 #44

Over complicated? Moonwalk May 2013 #46

Where could I see that? I'd love the backstage machinations. nolabear May 2013 #49

There you go again, with more snark and insults. Are you incapable of conversing like a human? MADem May 2013 #64

Sadism and sexual power dynamics have a much longer history BainsBane May 2013 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author madaboutharry May 2013 #26

There is a gracious way to add madaboutharry May 2013 #27

Thank you. whathehell May 2013 #58

The BDSM angle lept out at me too, JoDog May 2013 #39

You're last paragraph is interesting, because it highlights what has been explained to me about S&M whathehell May 2013 #54

Don told her he wanted to stop the affair. She knew the end was coming. bushisanidiot May 2013 #41

That's exactly how I saw it, too. Sheldon Cooper May 2013 #43

He looked really upset BainsBane May 2013 #82

I think he was acting to convince her how pathetic he really is. bushisanidiot May 2013 #86

I don't think so BainsBane May 2013 #87

If you thought Don was in control and not the mistress, you need to re-watch.... Moonwalk May 2013 #21

Insightful post - who's really in control? I'm about to dive into the blogs: chimpymustgo May 2013 #36

On subs and doms JoDog May 2013 #40

And I would add from what I know (which isn't as much as you do), that Don was a very good-- Moonwalk May 2013 #45

I'd be a lousy sub. I'd have had room service, a mani-pedi, movies on the TV, long distance calls.. nolabear May 2013 #50

+10 n/t whathehell May 2013 #60

Not necessarily JoDog May 2013 #66

Absolutely correct JoDog May 2013 #65

I don't recall mentioning anything about control in my OP. madaboutharry May 2013 #70

What show???? Lady Freedom Returns May 2013 #25

As much as DU hates woo, I've come to the conclusion... OneGrassRoot May 2013 #32

I've always thought Draper was .. ananda May 2013 #28

Now that would be a "surprise ending." MADem May 2013 #34

Oh please...I don't think anyone wants that. whathehell May 2013 #61

Who is the falling man in the opening credits? Ptah May 2013 #62

A heart attack BainsBane May 2013 #83

My wife said that it seemed as thought the writers must have read 50 Shades before that episode... bamacrat May 2013 #48

going to? alphafemale May 2013 #53

I hope he does, because then he'll have to see a shrink and we, the audience, whathehell May 2013 #57

Sorry, I'm still processing Theon having his **** removed. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #67

Lord knows. Sunday nights left me wrung completely out. nolabear May 2013 #68

It's my Must-See TV Night. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #69

They didn't actually show whether or not Theon's "little theon" was removed... SomethingFishy May 2013 #79

It's gone BainsBane May 2013 #85

Hey there, some of us watch it on DVD or Netflix so NO SPOILERS in Topic Heads Merlot May 2013 #71

The OP was just a generic guess--there's no actual plot spoiling there. MADem May 2013 #74

I got a kick out of the way he teared up and begged when she broke it off... cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #75

GD's not for reviewing TV shows tabasco May 2013 #76

Agreed itsrobert May 2013 #77

Please -- If it were something you were interested in, I doubt you'd give a shit. whathehell May 2013 #78

I thought those events usually resulted in snarky responses to an OP.... LanternWaste May 2013 #88

GD isn't just for political discussion. MADem May 2013 #80

Who the hell is Don Draper? Quixote1818 May 2013 #84

Never heard of him either. NCarolinawoman May 2013 #89