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kctim

(3,575 posts)
61. I love those polls and those who hang on them as gospel
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:15 PM
Feb 2012

Two things funny about them though.
1. The election results do not match up with the election results. (Yes, a Wellstone will win here and there, but so does a Walker)
2. The questions are simplified and get different results when not. Guess that makes it easier for people to use the parts they like and ignore the parts they don't.

Take so-called "free" universal healthcare for all. Yes, a large percentage think it sounds like a good idea, but less than half of that percentage are willing to pay what it would actually take to make it a viable program. Paying $12 dollars or so more per month is not going to do it AND it is a program that will have constant increases if it is to survive.

Raising the minimum wage sounds great also, but seeing how most working Americans make more than the minimum wage, I wonder if it would have the same support if you also asked if they would be willing to pay more in order to raise the minimum wage? Would be great if they would, but election results haven't really shown that desire yet.

Repealing tax cuts is the same thing as raising taxes and, while it is just my opinion, running on raising taxes is not a good thing to run your campaign on. Doesn't matter if you have a Clooney/Pitt ticket, cutting the averge workers paycheck does not bode well for the ticket.

Protecting the environment is important to most people, Republican and Democrat. How it is done and the financial impact is what makes 'whatever it takes' the wild card. So far, environment first, individuals second, is not winning many elections.

6 and 7 aren't really wedge issues that divide voters. They are after thoughts that people can live with as long as the candidate is good on other things.

As I said earlier, the polls do not support the results of the elections. IF they did, liberals/progressives would have a super majority and there would be no need for excuses as to why people do not vote for them.

But hey, you go right on ahead with living by what "polls" tell you Americans want and I'll go ahead with living by what Americans tell us they want through the election process. No harm no foul in that.

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Vote out the blue dogs. All of them. Zalatix Feb 2012 #1
Well, in 2010 tosh Feb 2012 #3
So The Vote Stayed The Same, Huh... WillyT Feb 2012 #4
Except that "R" counted towards the Republican majority. So that's not the same. SharonAnn Feb 2012 #50
Dem voters pooched the screw in 2010. Zalatix Feb 2012 #5
+1 Scuba Feb 2012 #25
Yeah, and that was an improvement....not. Ikonoklast Feb 2012 #6
I'm guessing you have to include votes to praise the heroism of Gabby Giffords' Aide to hit 80% LooseWilly Feb 2012 #14
My former blue dog tosh Feb 2012 #26
My problem with this strategy is that if we don't allow Blue Dogs within the party justiceischeap Feb 2012 #27
+1 loyalsister Feb 2012 #48
I disagree, most Blue Dogs are tools of corporate interests dreamnightwind Feb 2012 #54
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Feb 2012 #56
Well said. We will have thieves woo me with science Feb 2012 #30
Yes, but some seem to think we owe allegiance to and work for politicians, instead of quinnox Feb 2012 #2
How far do voters allow democratic politicians to stray from the platform?... jaw droppingly far? LooseWilly Feb 2012 #7
It's Curious That They Alerted On This One.. WillyT Feb 2012 #9
Right from the Romney playbook noise Feb 2012 #8
Its attitudes like this that quinnox Feb 2012 #10
LOL !!! - I Thought He/She Was Being Sarcastic WillyT Feb 2012 #11
Nope, I think that post was deadly serious quinnox Feb 2012 #12
Well... It's Definitely "Deadly"... WillyT Feb 2012 #13
I agree that the lack of noise Feb 2012 #15
Then the terrorists win. FarLeftFist Feb 2012 #16
Okay this has to be an example of Poe's Law. white_wolf Feb 2012 #17
wow quinnox Feb 2012 #18
Your feigned bewilderment might work on a Romney site noise Feb 2012 #20
Ok, you are putting me on quinnox Feb 2012 #23
Are you keeping disloyalty scores for everyone? DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2012 #43
Romney/al Qaeda 2012 Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #19
Ha I wonder which is less popular with GOP voters? white_wolf Feb 2012 #21
That's what I was thinking! Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #24
Faith In Our Leaders ??? WillyT Feb 2012 #22
"lack of faith in our leaders" ? bvar22 Feb 2012 #34
Do you think our "leaders" are like Gods or something? Creepy Jim Jones quality to your posts... Dragonfli Feb 2012 #38
"faith" "devotion" "al Qaeda" and the earlier "unconditional support" suffragette Feb 2012 #41
Dear God. Puglover Feb 2012 #44
this was the one proposing a "voluntary" loyalty oath last night DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2012 #33
I prefer blood oaths punishable by death when I join a cult, what he proposes just isn't as sexy as Dragonfli Feb 2012 #42
The key word being voluntary noise Feb 2012 #58
You what would be cool for DU3? bvar22 Feb 2012 #35
Excellent point dreamnightwind Feb 2012 #57
dumb fascisthunter Feb 2012 #46
du rec. nt xchrom Feb 2012 #28
When parties become corporate products, woo me with science Feb 2012 #29
"Give 'Em HELL Harry" Agrees! bvar22 Feb 2012 #31
"NEW" Democrats don't listen to Harry silly, they have think tanks full of conservatives now Dragonfli Feb 2012 #40
Ding Ding Ding! fascisthunter Feb 2012 #47
Elected officials kctim Feb 2012 #32
OTOH, bvar22 Feb 2012 #36
Well that totally explains kctim Feb 2012 #37
I'll make it easier. bvar22 Feb 2012 #39
In my district kctim Feb 2012 #45
Why guess? bvar22 Feb 2012 #49
Aw, Bob, there you go confusing people with your facts and experiences Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2012 #51
Wellstone jsmirman Feb 2012 #55
I love those polls and those who hang on them as gospel kctim Feb 2012 #61
It's a curious thing to dismiss the disenfranchised who rely on us to get them out and vote... joshcryer Feb 2012 #52
I Hear Ya... But There Used To Be This Thing Called A WHIP... And Party Discipline... WillyT Feb 2012 #53
This is what happened: joshcryer Feb 2012 #59
The White House AND the Congressional Party leadership KNOWS how to do this, bvar22 Feb 2012 #60
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