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graham4anything

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183. Nah, I disagree.Think about past-Now,every minority and every young woman can be President.
Tue May 14, 2013, 07:37 AM
May 2013

Back in other generations, think about what it must have felt to 80% of the democratic party and 0% of the republican party that they started off knowing they could NOT get to the highest levels.
That would be like 100MILLION people couldn't do it. Now they can.

and I don't know, my mom was tossed out of Austria at a young age due to her being Jewish. Imagine what people in Nazi times had to go through. And then they reach the US and like today a segment of the US population did not want them here. (Which is why I want 100% amnesty and citizenship and voting rights sooner rather than later.)
think about those people what they went through, and in other countries where they would give anything to have the problems we have because it would be so much better than what is in their countries.

I still marvel at what the grandparents of boomers and the great grandparents or great great grandparents of millenium generation went through, say at Operation Neptune.
They went in wave on wave, knowing most would die. For a war almost everyone now thinks should have been entered years earlier.

LIKE 12 years ago, an older generation of hated law enforcement and fire department thought nothing of rushing the WTC to save anyone who could be saved, and how many died that day on 9-11? Those people working law enforcement jobs that some put down daily, gave their all and did not do it for the money or to be heroes.
They just did the job they were hired for.
(and remember it was mostly the boomers that pysically built the WTC in the first place
(Like Elton John's lyricist Bernie Taupin wrote and that old group Jefferson Starship sang
"We built this city&quot

and go back further in American history, and think about what children of blacks must have thought of their life.

or in WW2, about the Japanese who were interred what about their kids and what they thought?

and what about those coming of working age in the early 1980s-90s, those would be either the youngest of the boomers, and the oldest of whatever one calls the generation immediate after, what about them? When AIDS ravaged America with ZERO hope to control it back then and no one knowing what it was and who was getting it (Rightwing media and President Reagan who for some reason alot of Americans including democratic party people voted for over Jimmy Carter) Reagan was asleep at the wheel.

And kids born with a childhood cancer, now there is hope thanks to the healthcare industry doing wonderful thing, and by corporations sponsoring and donating to wonderful places like
St.Jude's so that they could offer free care and free housing for any parent with a childhood illness that decades ago there was no hope.

Others in the past had other obstacles as today's age.

There is something different.

Back in others, a kid didn't think they should be CEO without starting all the way at the lower rings first and work their way up.
There is something now that people think they should be the CEO but then not know how to handle responsiblity with other older and younger people.

The saying Hillary said "it takes a village" and the as President Obama said, that he didn't build it.
That type of reason'd'etre was from the boomers and older.
And it included those up to 65 in the workplace, not with the younger firing anyone over 45.
(and included the generations prior to FDR too.)

back then anything was possible and soon anything again will be.
When one removes the obstructions from being in the way that don't want to go forward.

I think the problem is after 9-11, it took for many reasons, way too long to rebuild the WTC.
It should have been done and rebuilt by 2004 like it would have at any time in the past.
But the empty ugly hole that the terrorists left us was a symbol W used to benefit him.
That is one problem that people of that age, now use W as the one they know.

And have nothing older to base their opinions of, because good or bad, no one in the past was that bad with nothing to offer. So I can understand the hopelessness of 9-11, and it was one of the most horrible immediate events since the interrment of the Japanese in WW2 and the Nazi's. but was it really an entire generation wasted because of it?
Is that the true horrors of OBL and the 19?

W was a very bad motivator.
Postive thinking begets positive
Which is why hope and forward is important.
And why to better mankind, one must not want to complain about those with more, as it leads to self-outcome that is negative.
One can never be the one with the most. One can climb to the top, but there is always someone out there with more.

(look how rich OBL was and how negative he was, he wanted to burn it down.
Didn't help those he thought were his people, he just wanted to burn it down
With his money and riches, he would have been better off working within and building up instead of burning the WTC down. Silly in retrospect that he didn't do that.
He could have.


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Translation: "Get off my lawn, you damn kids!" BlueStater May 2013 #1
Joel Stein is 100% correct. and Mr. Wilson knew best. graham4anything May 2013 #3
Young people voted overwhelmingly for Barack Obama. BlueStater May 2013 #10
Dinosaurs? HappyMe May 2013 #17
graham is the one who called elderly people "dinosaurs". BlueStater May 2013 #20
Dennis the Menace still is in the comics section. N/t alp227 May 2013 #13
and the TV show is on AntennaTV (114 in the NYC area) graham4anything May 2013 #15
Here's what we made for them RobertEarl May 2013 #4
Were there any accomplishments that could be lauded, such as polio vaccine, or a man bike man May 2013 #35
I'm staying out of generational warfare, but boomers had nothing to do with developing either Tom Ripley May 2013 #73
Upon rereading the OP, one can find this tidbit "...The incidence of narcissistic bike man May 2013 #96
I didn't do that... Bay Boy May 2013 #130
No future = no morality.... Junkdrawer May 2013 #146
Trespassing can be a serious matter. Except when it's YOU, right? closeupready May 2013 #12
What do you know? graham actually has ONE supporter in this thread. BlueStater May 2013 #25
The implication of that tired retort is, the rules don't apply when closeupready May 2013 #34
My implication was clear to everyone except for you. BlueStater May 2013 #38
I think you're confusing 'inference' with 'implication'... LanternWaste May 2013 #39
Likely - it is Monday, after all. Anyway, I don't expect closeupready May 2013 #56
"Don't you have about 200 billion 'Hillary 2016' posts to make?" Apophis May 2013 #27
Then there's the seating arrangements for the inaugural ball... JHB May 2013 #85
DLC dems gotta stick together dontcha know?nt SwampG8r May 2013 #147
Garbage marions ghost May 2013 #2
Of course family is important to the ME ME ME, as they still LIVE with the family Me graham4anything May 2013 #7
How long has it been since you actually did a day's work? Marr May 2013 #9
+1 demmiblue May 2013 #42
+1 leftstreet May 2013 #48
WRONG question graham4anything May 2013 #50
You think you're special? Marr May 2013 #66
+1 Joneses generation here, feel so sorry for younger people. LiberalLoner May 2013 #77
+10 for the Generation Jones reference JHB May 2013 #114
Another +1 demmiblue May 2013 #84
+1 L0oniX May 2013 #94
I don't know when you went to college but I do know when I did dsc May 2013 #123
What a surprise. Bonobo May 2013 #161
I like Cher too.(Cher is an oldie but goodie.)Looked up Barakas. Interesting sound graham4anything May 2013 #162
Yeah, 80-20 and Al Sharpton is the only one you listen to. Bonobo May 2013 #163
why not stop being personal and argue the article. 80-20 is the 2013 PEACE symbol. graham4anything May 2013 #165
I agree it's not 50-50. Bonobo May 2013 #166
Before you go all radically and progressively sarcastic on someone, please consider Skidmore May 2013 #177
You think working a minimum wage now Bonobo May 2013 #178
I know that people...young and old... have the same needs for survival. Skidmore May 2013 #179
I have both gray hair and an aching body. Bonobo May 2013 #186
Good for you. Many of us have walked that road but Skidmore May 2013 #193
+1 Thank you for the courage to speak up. graham4anything May 2013 #190
+1 On This JustAnotherGen May 2013 #60
'Gen X'ers are Cynical Assholes' bullet! LondonReign2 May 2013 #88
That's because JustAnotherGen May 2013 #111
Not dodged, it's just implicit in these Millenial vs Boomer catfights. cemaphonic May 2013 #124
Ironic, isn't it? wickerwoman May 2013 #173
+1 000 000 000 kestrel91316 May 2013 #74
+1 Newest Reality May 2013 #78
+1 hammer time L0oniX May 2013 #95
K an R DonCoquixote May 2013 #137
I'd say he's ''working'' right now. I'm starting to Guy Whitey Corngood May 2013 #138
. Junkdrawer May 2013 #143
just one of many nt SwampG8r May 2013 #150
I've had that thought since day one. Apophis May 2013 #170
So wrong marions ghost May 2013 #19
Why are you so determined JNelson6563 May 2013 #187
This kind of crap helps, how? geek tragedy May 2013 #5
This is just another shit stirring thread Rex May 2013 #106
Sometimes I wonder if you're actually *trying* to drive people away. /nt Marr May 2013 #6
This is TIME magazine's cover story. May 20, 2013. sheesh. graham4anything May 2013 #8
The mailman? Didn't you order the subscription? Bluenorthwest May 2013 #52
I bet if one of those whiny alt-media worked for time, others would have posted it graham4anything May 2013 #61
Whiny Alt-Media HangOnKids May 2013 #80
President Obama speaks for the liberal democratic party & so does his first SOS graham4anything May 2013 #102
The act is getting old, nice to see people catching on. Rex May 2013 #107
You are hilarious. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #93
There are a number of possibilities JHB May 2013 #197
You throw around the term "alt-media" burnodo May 2013 #132
there is NO media that supports President Obama. Therefore there is a faux analogy graham4anything May 2013 #135
"alt-media" because you don't like what they have to say burnodo May 2013 #136
The Alt-media is all playing their angle, oh so predictable Ron Paul style. graham4anything May 2013 #139
you have left out SwampG8r May 2013 #154
I'm a young guy in my 20s, y'know in the post-print generation. alp227 May 2013 #98
He's trying to make DU look bad, IMHO. The haters come here to spread their hate and kestrel91316 May 2013 #75
It's all an act to make liberals look like morons Guy Whitey Corngood May 2013 #148
I agree with this. closeupready May 2013 #11
Every generation has it's lazy, self-involved asshats. HappyMe May 2013 #14
The Greatest Generation can claim Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon. BlueStater May 2013 #41
Of course not. HappyMe May 2013 #53
There's selfish people in every generation. BlueStater May 2013 #67
If you don't stand for something, you're graham4anything. HughBeaumont May 2013 #16
Hell, 'the greatest generation' and others said the same thing about boomers, for that matter Cirque du So-What May 2013 #18
Thank you marions ghost May 2013 #22
I hope NObody from ANY generation buys into it Cirque du So-What May 2013 #72
Exactly marions ghost May 2013 #109
I love that quote. sibelian May 2013 #191
You don't like Bob Graham? Why? President Obama is OLD School in a New body. graham4anything May 2013 #23
I'm a Floridian. Bob Graham was my senator at one point. BlueStater May 2013 #29
TIME MAGAZINE cover story, this weeks issue. I didn't write it. graham4anything May 2013 #51
You're agreeing with it, aren't you? I can attribute its words to your own viewpoint. BlueStater May 2013 #65
i have actually met gov graham SwampG8r May 2013 #158
Does anyone have a GPS to the point? HughBeaumont May 2013 #40
Galloping tangent alert LondonReign2 May 2013 #91
Haha, any attacks on Millennials by Boomers is ridiculous. Hosnon May 2013 #21
What utter bulshit. marions ghost May 2013 #24
Not at all. See the rebuttal article posted upthread. Hosnon May 2013 #26
I think that's bullshit too. HappyMe May 2013 #37
Boomers also liberalized the culture and stopped the war in Vietnam flamingdem May 2013 #81
vietnam (with soviet help) stopped the war in vietnam BOG PERSON May 2013 #145
Top of the google list shows you're not right flamingdem May 2013 #168
The boomers were the last generation to have it better off than their parents tabbycat31 May 2013 #90
boomers' parents were handed an incredible society/economy BOG PERSON May 2013 #131
Yep, the "greatest generation" took damn good care of themselves. bemildred May 2013 #195
Horseshit. They cannot even agree on what "narcissistic personality disorder" is. bemildred May 2013 #28
When a person spends all day long with an iPod or cell phone glued to their ear BlueStreak May 2013 #43
Right, young people can be immature, and old people can be grumpy. Big deal. bemildred May 2013 #47
Have you been in a position of trying to hire any of these people? BlueStreak May 2013 #59
What business is it of yours? nt bemildred May 2013 #64
I don't believe it is the usual generational immaturity. BlueStreak May 2013 #116
OK, thank you for an intelligent argument. bemildred May 2013 #127
OK, let's see if we can find some common ground here. bemildred May 2013 #194
I think that's part of it for sure BlueStreak May 2013 #196
Copacetic. bemildred May 2013 #198
Turtle on the fencepost BlueStreak May 2013 #200
I think they gave us a chance to vote on it, and we did. bemildred May 2013 #201
I hear you, but I don't think they are stereotypes. The division is real. BlueStreak May 2013 #202
Well, I get stuck on that, let me think about it. nt bemildred May 2013 #203
Takes an awfully simplistic mind to come up with stuff and an even more simplistic mind to agree... LanternWaste May 2013 #30
I'm right on the cusp of Boomer/GenX RevStPatrick May 2013 #31
Exactly. Thanks for posting this. bayareamike May 2013 #70
Millenials should wait to "save the world" flamingdem May 2013 #83
some courageous millenial must go + start this century's world war cycle BOG PERSON May 2013 #133
good point however flamingdem May 2013 #142
Mostly true snooper2 May 2013 #32
Sending emails at 2AM is not necessarily "working" BlueStreak May 2013 #57
Previous generations did not have to send emails at 2am tabbycat31 May 2013 #100
I actually agree with every word of that. I am talking effect and you are talking cause. BlueStreak May 2013 #119
When I'm on call, sending and receiving phone calls is part of the job description-- hence, it is in LanternWaste May 2013 #113
Odd... I thought only idiots reached a conclusion based on anecdotal and incomplete information. LanternWaste May 2013 #112
Oh look, another "Young people are shit with their Snapples and their skateboards Arkana May 2013 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Dash87 May 2013 #36
We can't get high paying jobs and the ones we can get don't pay enough that we can afford rent. Initech May 2013 #44
I shared an apt with 4 others. If you don't get along with others then I guess you are on your own.. L0oniX May 2013 #97
Here in Southern California rent averages $1400/month. Initech May 2013 #115
I like the younger generations. Arugula Latte May 2013 #45
Any discussion involving generations is corporate BS, designed to snagglepuss May 2013 #46
You should make this an OP leftstreet May 2013 #49
Yes, it's a cliche, babble. bemildred May 2013 #55
Divide & Conquer Corporatists, Inc. Berlum May 2013 #58
Yes, but I hear negative talk about Boomers by Millenials anyway flamingdem May 2013 #82
It's often BS, but "corporate BS"? Silent3 May 2013 #63
Of course it's corporist. Who but the corporate media create and perpetuate these memes? snagglepuss May 2013 #76
You mean like the corporate media in ancient Rome... Silent3 May 2013 #101
That it was pushed by one interest once upon a time doesn't deny that it is being pushed by another, LanternWaste May 2013 #122
One should also be aware... Silent3 May 2013 #169
yeah, all the generational BS is awful tired n/t fishwax May 2013 #156
Damn It Feels Good To Be JustAnotherGen May 2013 #54
Millenials are lazy? bayareamike May 2013 #62
You're not starting inter-generational warfare. That was done in the OP DisgustipatedinCA May 2013 #68
.... HappyMe May 2013 #69
I'm not sure what this means. bayareamike May 2013 #71
Give me a break. ForgoTheConsequence May 2013 #79
Well said. You said it better than I could've. nt bayareamike May 2013 #108
. JHB May 2013 #86
Social capital is in decline. Is it the millenials fault? Doesn't really matter. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #87
the generation was also raised to fear strangers tabbycat31 May 2013 #128
The OP and the link both amount to a steaming pantload. Quantess May 2013 #89
Yep +++++ marions ghost May 2013 #110
+++ Starry Messenger May 2013 #118
They've grown up knowing nothing but war MannyGoldstein May 2013 #92
Isn't narcissism part of being young? nt valerief May 2013 #99
103 posts on. BlueStater May 2013 #103
It is funny watching him pretend. Rex May 2013 #104
I hate generation gap type wars. Hate them! lunatica May 2013 #105
Lazy whippersnappers .99center May 2013 #117
And who was it that RAISED THEM to be lazy? Megalo_Man May 2013 #120
I think this article is crap. GaYellowDawg May 2013 #121
Says the generatiok of folks who want the party to roll on until they get theirs... Earth_First May 2013 #125
Given that the millennials were the ones with boots on the ground in Iraq muntrv May 2013 #126
This! They were some of them, maybe most!-NT Anansi1171 May 2013 #134
These kind of articles never refer to the working class nt flamingdem May 2013 #141
that is what they said about my generation back in the 60"s except people didn't use such big words Douglas Carpenter May 2013 #129
What? past generations were alot more cultured than the kids today graham4anything May 2013 #144
"I walked 15 miles to school in the snow with no shoes!" BlueStater May 2013 #149
Same people that hated Abe Lincoln seem to hate Barack Obama. graham4anything May 2013 #151
I have no idea how old you are. BlueStater May 2013 #153
Abraham Lincoln is still alive and living inside Barack Obama angle. graham4anything May 2013 #159
the dream has come to life BOG PERSON May 2013 #164
change headline to cprompt May 2013 #140
i'm a gen-xer who works 10 jobs BOG PERSON May 2013 #152
EVERY generation has its "me" moments SoCalDem May 2013 #155
nonsense (like most generation-based analysis) n/t fishwax May 2013 #157
How did I know this was you? curlyred May 2013 #160
I'm 19. I voted for Obama in the CA Primary and General Elections last year. DEMTough May 2013 #167
A gen X response DonCoquixote May 2013 #171
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #199
Needing attention again, eh graham4cash? Fumesucker May 2013 #172
I still don't know why you're allowed to post on this site Cali_Democrat May 2013 #174
Has it occurred to you that the reason OwnedByCats May 2013 #175
Last time Time Magazine sold out an entire generation... rucky May 2013 #176
I don't buy what Time is selling either fasttense May 2013 #180
Nah, I disagree.Think about past-Now,every minority and every young woman can be President. graham4anything May 2013 #183
Blame the parents and the media malaise May 2013 #181
Two can play the generational warfare game. Demo_Chris May 2013 #182
you make a good point graham4anything May 2013 #184
wow DonCoquixote May 2013 #185
May I humbly add to that? DonCoquixote May 2013 #189
Well said. nt Demo_Chris May 2013 #205
I hate to say this, but damn, Graham, I am really disappointed in you today. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #188
Maybe I should have said he is 100% correct in CERTAIN cases lol graham4anything May 2013 #192
100%... in certain cases... SomethingFishy May 2013 #207
This sort of generational warfare is just one more form of 'divide and rule' LeftishBrit May 2013 #204
-1 demmiblue May 2013 #206
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