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AverageJoe90

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188. I hate to say this, but damn, Graham, I am really disappointed in you today.

Reply to graham4anything (Original post)

Tue May 14, 2013, 08:31 AM

May 2013

I'm sorry, dude. I've seen you around a lot and you normally post some pretty great stuff. But this particular TIME article just reeks....badly. There's a few real bad apples in every generation, yes, always have but there isn't much real difference between them in terms of numbers as far as that goes. And about this whole narcissism thing? It's nothing new, either! It's just been recognized more in recent years, that's all.

I went a little easy on you since I like you, but I'd wish you'd realize that this stuff isn't healthy, and neither is the opposite(younger generations attacing the older), either.

And, also, here's a good rebuttal to Stein's baloney (than you, Elspeth Reeve!):

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/05/me-generation-time/65054/

Here's another one for you, btw:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2009/mar/17/ephebiphobia-young-people-mosquito

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Time magazine=Millennials Are Lazy, Entitled Narcissists Who Still Live With Their Parents [View all] graham4anything May 2013 OP

Translation: "Get off my lawn, you damn kids!" BlueStater May 2013 #1

Joel Stein is 100% correct. and Mr. Wilson knew best. graham4anything May 2013 #3

Young people voted overwhelmingly for Barack Obama. BlueStater May 2013 #10

Dinosaurs? HappyMe May 2013 #17

graham is the one who called elderly people "dinosaurs". BlueStater May 2013 #20

Dennis the Menace still is in the comics section. N/t alp227 May 2013 #13

and the TV show is on AntennaTV (114 in the NYC area) graham4anything May 2013 #15

Here's what we made for them RobertEarl May 2013 #4

Were there any accomplishments that could be lauded, such as polio vaccine, or a man bike man May 2013 #35

I'm staying out of generational warfare, but boomers had nothing to do with developing either Tom Ripley May 2013 #73

Upon rereading the OP, one can find this tidbit "...The incidence of narcissistic bike man May 2013 #96

I didn't do that... Bay Boy May 2013 #130

No future = no morality.... Junkdrawer May 2013 #146

Trespassing can be a serious matter. Except when it's YOU, right? closeupready May 2013 #12

What do you know? graham actually has ONE supporter in this thread. BlueStater May 2013 #25

The implication of that tired retort is, the rules don't apply when closeupready May 2013 #34

My implication was clear to everyone except for you. BlueStater May 2013 #38

I think you're confusing 'inference' with 'implication'... LanternWaste May 2013 #39

Likely - it is Monday, after all. Anyway, I don't expect closeupready May 2013 #56

"Don't you have about 200 billion 'Hillary 2016' posts to make?" Apophis May 2013 #27

Then there's the seating arrangements for the inaugural ball... JHB May 2013 #85

DLC dems gotta stick together dontcha know?nt SwampG8r May 2013 #147

Garbage marions ghost May 2013 #2

Of course family is important to the ME ME ME, as they still LIVE with the family Me graham4anything May 2013 #7

How long has it been since you actually did a day's work? Marr May 2013 #9

+1 demmiblue May 2013 #42

+1 leftstreet May 2013 #48

WRONG question graham4anything May 2013 #50

You think you're special? Marr May 2013 #66

+1 Joneses generation here, feel so sorry for younger people. LiberalLoner May 2013 #77

+10 for the Generation Jones reference JHB May 2013 #114

Another +1 demmiblue May 2013 #84

+1 L0oniX May 2013 #94

I don't know when you went to college but I do know when I did dsc May 2013 #123

What a surprise. Bonobo May 2013 #161

I like Cher too.(Cher is an oldie but goodie.)Looked up Barakas. Interesting sound graham4anything May 2013 #162

Yeah, 80-20 and Al Sharpton is the only one you listen to. Bonobo May 2013 #163

why not stop being personal and argue the article. 80-20 is the 2013 PEACE symbol. graham4anything May 2013 #165

I agree it's not 50-50. Bonobo May 2013 #166

Before you go all radically and progressively sarcastic on someone, please consider Skidmore May 2013 #177

You think working a minimum wage now Bonobo May 2013 #178

I know that people...young and old... have the same needs for survival. Skidmore May 2013 #179

I have both gray hair and an aching body. Bonobo May 2013 #186

Good for you. Many of us have walked that road but Skidmore May 2013 #193

+1 Thank you for the courage to speak up. graham4anything May 2013 #190

+1 On This JustAnotherGen May 2013 #60

'Gen X'ers are Cynical Assholes' bullet! LondonReign2 May 2013 #88

That's because JustAnotherGen May 2013 #111

Not dodged, it's just implicit in these Millenial vs Boomer catfights. cemaphonic May 2013 #124

Ironic, isn't it? wickerwoman May 2013 #173

+1 000 000 000 kestrel91316 May 2013 #74

+1 Newest Reality May 2013 #78

+1 hammer time L0oniX May 2013 #95

K an R DonCoquixote May 2013 #137

I'd say he's ''working'' right now. I'm starting to Guy Whitey Corngood May 2013 #138

. Junkdrawer May 2013 #143

just one of many nt SwampG8r May 2013 #150

I've had that thought since day one. Apophis May 2013 #170

So wrong marions ghost May 2013 #19

Why are you so determined JNelson6563 May 2013 #187

This kind of crap helps, how? geek tragedy May 2013 #5

This is just another shit stirring thread Rex May 2013 #106

Sometimes I wonder if you're actually *trying* to drive people away. /nt Marr May 2013 #6

This is TIME magazine's cover story. May 20, 2013. sheesh. graham4anything May 2013 #8

The mailman? Didn't you order the subscription? Bluenorthwest May 2013 #52

I bet if one of those whiny alt-media worked for time, others would have posted it graham4anything May 2013 #61

Whiny Alt-Media HangOnKids May 2013 #80

President Obama speaks for the liberal democratic party & so does his first SOS graham4anything May 2013 #102

The act is getting old, nice to see people catching on. Rex May 2013 #107

You are hilarious. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #93

There are a number of possibilities JHB May 2013 #197

You throw around the term "alt-media" burnodo May 2013 #132

there is NO media that supports President Obama. Therefore there is a faux analogy graham4anything May 2013 #135

"alt-media" because you don't like what they have to say burnodo May 2013 #136

The Alt-media is all playing their angle, oh so predictable Ron Paul style. graham4anything May 2013 #139

you have left out SwampG8r May 2013 #154

I'm a young guy in my 20s, y'know in the post-print generation. alp227 May 2013 #98

He's trying to make DU look bad, IMHO. The haters come here to spread their hate and kestrel91316 May 2013 #75

It's all an act to make liberals look like morons Guy Whitey Corngood May 2013 #148

I agree with this. closeupready May 2013 #11

Every generation has it's lazy, self-involved asshats. HappyMe May 2013 #14

The Greatest Generation can claim Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon. BlueStater May 2013 #41

Of course not. HappyMe May 2013 #53

There's selfish people in every generation. BlueStater May 2013 #67

If you don't stand for something, you're graham4anything. HughBeaumont May 2013 #16

Hell, 'the greatest generation' and others said the same thing about boomers, for that matter Cirque du So-What May 2013 #18

Thank you marions ghost May 2013 #22

I hope NObody from ANY generation buys into it Cirque du So-What May 2013 #72

Exactly marions ghost May 2013 #109

I love that quote. sibelian May 2013 #191

You don't like Bob Graham? Why? President Obama is OLD School in a New body. graham4anything May 2013 #23

I'm a Floridian. Bob Graham was my senator at one point. BlueStater May 2013 #29

TIME MAGAZINE cover story, this weeks issue. I didn't write it. graham4anything May 2013 #51

You're agreeing with it, aren't you? I can attribute its words to your own viewpoint. BlueStater May 2013 #65

i have actually met gov graham SwampG8r May 2013 #158

Does anyone have a GPS to the point? HughBeaumont May 2013 #40

Galloping tangent alert LondonReign2 May 2013 #91

Haha, any attacks on Millennials by Boomers is ridiculous. Hosnon May 2013 #21

What utter bulshit. marions ghost May 2013 #24

Not at all. See the rebuttal article posted upthread. Hosnon May 2013 #26

I think that's bullshit too. HappyMe May 2013 #37

Boomers also liberalized the culture and stopped the war in Vietnam flamingdem May 2013 #81

vietnam (with soviet help) stopped the war in vietnam BOG PERSON May 2013 #145

Top of the google list shows you're not right flamingdem May 2013 #168

The boomers were the last generation to have it better off than their parents tabbycat31 May 2013 #90

boomers' parents were handed an incredible society/economy BOG PERSON May 2013 #131

Yep, the "greatest generation" took damn good care of themselves. bemildred May 2013 #195

Horseshit. They cannot even agree on what "narcissistic personality disorder" is. bemildred May 2013 #28

When a person spends all day long with an iPod or cell phone glued to their ear BlueStreak May 2013 #43

Right, young people can be immature, and old people can be grumpy. Big deal. bemildred May 2013 #47

Have you been in a position of trying to hire any of these people? BlueStreak May 2013 #59

What business is it of yours? nt bemildred May 2013 #64

I don't believe it is the usual generational immaturity. BlueStreak May 2013 #116

OK, thank you for an intelligent argument. bemildred May 2013 #127

OK, let's see if we can find some common ground here. bemildred May 2013 #194

I think that's part of it for sure BlueStreak May 2013 #196

Copacetic. bemildred May 2013 #198

Turtle on the fencepost BlueStreak May 2013 #200

I think they gave us a chance to vote on it, and we did. bemildred May 2013 #201

I hear you, but I don't think they are stereotypes. The division is real. BlueStreak May 2013 #202

Well, I get stuck on that, let me think about it. nt bemildred May 2013 #203

Takes an awfully simplistic mind to come up with stuff and an even more simplistic mind to agree... LanternWaste May 2013 #30

I'm right on the cusp of Boomer/GenX RevStPatrick May 2013 #31

Exactly. Thanks for posting this. bayareamike May 2013 #70

Millenials should wait to "save the world" flamingdem May 2013 #83

some courageous millenial must go + start this century's world war cycle BOG PERSON May 2013 #133

good point however flamingdem May 2013 #142

Mostly true snooper2 May 2013 #32

Sending emails at 2AM is not necessarily "working" BlueStreak May 2013 #57

Previous generations did not have to send emails at 2am tabbycat31 May 2013 #100

I actually agree with every word of that. I am talking effect and you are talking cause. BlueStreak May 2013 #119

When I'm on call, sending and receiving phone calls is part of the job description-- hence, it is in LanternWaste May 2013 #113

Odd... I thought only idiots reached a conclusion based on anecdotal and incomplete information. LanternWaste May 2013 #112

Oh look, another "Young people are shit with their Snapples and their skateboards Arkana May 2013 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author Dash87 May 2013 #36

We can't get high paying jobs and the ones we can get don't pay enough that we can afford rent. Initech May 2013 #44

I shared an apt with 4 others. If you don't get along with others then I guess you are on your own.. L0oniX May 2013 #97

Here in Southern California rent averages $1400/month. Initech May 2013 #115

I like the younger generations. Arugula Latte May 2013 #45

Any discussion involving generations is corporate BS, designed to snagglepuss May 2013 #46

You should make this an OP leftstreet May 2013 #49

Yes, it's a cliche, babble. bemildred May 2013 #55

Divide & Conquer Corporatists, Inc. Berlum May 2013 #58

Yes, but I hear negative talk about Boomers by Millenials anyway flamingdem May 2013 #82

It's often BS, but "corporate BS"? Silent3 May 2013 #63

Of course it's corporist. Who but the corporate media create and perpetuate these memes? snagglepuss May 2013 #76

You mean like the corporate media in ancient Rome... Silent3 May 2013 #101

That it was pushed by one interest once upon a time doesn't deny that it is being pushed by another, LanternWaste May 2013 #122

One should also be aware... Silent3 May 2013 #169

yeah, all the generational BS is awful tired n/t fishwax May 2013 #156

Damn It Feels Good To Be JustAnotherGen May 2013 #54

Millenials are lazy? bayareamike May 2013 #62

You're not starting inter-generational warfare. That was done in the OP DisgustipatedinCA May 2013 #68

.... HappyMe May 2013 #69

I'm not sure what this means. bayareamike May 2013 #71

Give me a break. ForgoTheConsequence May 2013 #79

Well said. You said it better than I could've. nt bayareamike May 2013 #108

. JHB May 2013 #86

Social capital is in decline. Is it the millenials fault? Doesn't really matter. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #87

the generation was also raised to fear strangers tabbycat31 May 2013 #128

The OP and the link both amount to a steaming pantload. Quantess May 2013 #89

Yep +++++ marions ghost May 2013 #110

+++ Starry Messenger May 2013 #118

They've grown up knowing nothing but war MannyGoldstein May 2013 #92

Isn't narcissism part of being young? nt valerief May 2013 #99

103 posts on. BlueStater May 2013 #103

It is funny watching him pretend. Rex May 2013 #104

I hate generation gap type wars. Hate them! lunatica May 2013 #105

Lazy whippersnappers .99center May 2013 #117

And who was it that RAISED THEM to be lazy? Megalo_Man May 2013 #120

I think this article is crap. GaYellowDawg May 2013 #121

Says the generatiok of folks who want the party to roll on until they get theirs... Earth_First May 2013 #125

Given that the millennials were the ones with boots on the ground in Iraq muntrv May 2013 #126

This! They were some of them, maybe most!-NT Anansi1171 May 2013 #134

These kind of articles never refer to the working class nt flamingdem May 2013 #141

that is what they said about my generation back in the 60"s except people didn't use such big words Douglas Carpenter May 2013 #129

What? past generations were alot more cultured than the kids today graham4anything May 2013 #144

"I walked 15 miles to school in the snow with no shoes!" BlueStater May 2013 #149

Same people that hated Abe Lincoln seem to hate Barack Obama. graham4anything May 2013 #151

I have no idea how old you are. BlueStater May 2013 #153

Abraham Lincoln is still alive and living inside Barack Obama angle. graham4anything May 2013 #159

the dream has come to life BOG PERSON May 2013 #164

change headline to cprompt May 2013 #140

i'm a gen-xer who works 10 jobs BOG PERSON May 2013 #152

EVERY generation has its "me" moments SoCalDem May 2013 #155

nonsense (like most generation-based analysis) n/t fishwax May 2013 #157

How did I know this was you? curlyred May 2013 #160

I'm 19. I voted for Obama in the CA Primary and General Elections last year. DEMTough May 2013 #167

A gen X response DonCoquixote May 2013 #171

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #199

Needing attention again, eh graham4cash? Fumesucker May 2013 #172

I still don't know why you're allowed to post on this site Cali_Democrat May 2013 #174

Has it occurred to you that the reason OwnedByCats May 2013 #175

Last time Time Magazine sold out an entire generation... rucky May 2013 #176

I don't buy what Time is selling either fasttense May 2013 #180

Nah, I disagree.Think about past-Now,every minority and every young woman can be President. graham4anything May 2013 #183

Blame the parents and the media malaise May 2013 #181

Two can play the generational warfare game. Demo_Chris May 2013 #182

you make a good point graham4anything May 2013 #184

wow DonCoquixote May 2013 #185

May I humbly add to that? DonCoquixote May 2013 #189

Well said. nt Demo_Chris May 2013 #205

I hate to say this, but damn, Graham, I am really disappointed in you today. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #188

Maybe I should have said he is 100% correct in CERTAIN cases lol graham4anything May 2013 #192

100%... in certain cases... SomethingFishy May 2013 #207

This sort of generational warfare is just one more form of 'divide and rule' LeftishBrit May 2013 #204

-1 demmiblue May 2013 #206