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KharmaTrain

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22. The Evidence Is Forthcoming...

Tue May 14, 2013, 09:29 AM

May 2013

...the IG's report that should detail who was targeted and why. As a kid of the Nixon era I am firmly against using the IRS to target political opponents and if someone was deliberately singling out individuals for retribution they should be exposed. But that's not what's going on here...this is an investigation into the sudden rise of 501c4s that have turned into a slush fund for corporates, politicians and a supposed "non-profit". This is about millions of dollars that were laundered through these groups by fine outstanding folks like the Kochs and Karl Rove to subvert campaign finance laws...funding a new "political welfare" system. In the last election Rove made a lot of money as middle man between big money donors (all undisclosed) and the buying of mass amounts of TV time; pocketing a health commission in the process. Now, should that be tax exempt? I'm sure the IRS wants to know...

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Tea Party and the like deserve IRS targeting [View all] Mothdust May 2013 OP

got evidence for that claim, honey? cali May 2013 #1

Snicker...and then our side wonders why it loses all the time... Katashi_itto May 2013 #7

gad. grab a clue, sweetums cali May 2013 #8

I used to respect you too, I actually thought you had something viable to say. Katashi_itto May 2013 #9

And who was in charge of the IRS during this time frame madokie May 2013 #11

I'm not bashing the President cali May 2013 #14

You sure could have fooled me madokie May 2013 #19

Truth be told Raggaemon May 2013 #46

honey? sweetums? Why are you using affectionate terms for DU'ers having a discussion? KittyWampus May 2013 #61

And who is "our side", exactly? Marr May 2013 #37

+10000 woo me with science May 2013 #58

thank you n.t. Mothdust May 2013 #81

cali, Skidmore May 2013 #16

Re: got evidence for that, honey ? Raggaemon May 2013 #41

Have you seen the breakdown by applications joeglow3 May 2013 #47

exactly Mothdust May 2013 #82

your name-calling and insults only prove Mothdust May 2013 #79

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #2

tea party means racists who didnt object when bush the white guy did it nt msongs May 2013 #3

so what? that doesn't make it OK. duh cali May 2013 #4

Pointing out the hypocrisy of the Tea Party does not mean you are OK with IRS targeting Cali_Democrat May 2013 #5

you are correct I said nothing about IRS targeting, but some people have agendas lol nt msongs May 2013 #10

In this case it does treestar May 2013 #43

It's not right to target anyone, period. rl6214 May 2013 #6

If someone is openly advocating not paying taxes then yes it is OK madokie May 2013 #12

do you have even a scintilla of evidence that the groups that were targeted advocated cali May 2013 #15

Have you not being paying attention? madokie May 2013 #18

The Evidence Is Forthcoming... KharmaTrain May 2013 #22

the problem lies in targeting people correctly Mothdust May 2013 #83

But the teabagger orgs are not the same as the "tax resisters" pinboy3niner May 2013 #13

why is something that simple so difficult for so many DUers to grasp? cali May 2013 #17

Childish thinking, apparently. X_Digger May 2013 #36

Ding ding ding SlimJimmy May 2013 #52

Um, no. Javaman May 2013 #20

Thay have done the same and worse. Ganja Ninja May 2013 #25

"Mommy, he did it first" stopped being acceptable at about age 8. n/t X_Digger May 2013 #35

OK so lets see. Ganja Ninja May 2013 #38

Equality under the law. You remember, 14th amendment? X_Digger May 2013 #40

Having a political agenda does not make you above suspicion. Ganja Ninja May 2013 #45

Not exempt, but not specifically targeted- whether left or right. X_Digger May 2013 #48

You have to look for crime where you expect to find it. Ganja Ninja May 2013 #55

And now we have justification for profiling.. bravo. X_Digger May 2013 #56

Profiling is a legitimate method for determining where to look for possible criminal activity. Ganja Ninja May 2013 #60

You keep circling around to "Mommy, they did it first!"-- as if that somehow makes it right. X_Digger May 2013 #62

What part of this did you not understand? Ganja Ninja May 2013 #64

If people are targeted because of their politics (left or right), that's wrong. X_Digger May 2013 #68

Again Ganja Ninja May 2013 #69

Who here (not me) is saying that politics makes one immune?!? X_Digger May 2013 #70

It wasn't about politics anyway and that was not why the IRS was targeting them. Ganja Ninja May 2013 #89

You keep thinking that. X_Digger May 2013 #90

And crimes are committed by more by lower socio-economic joeglow3 May 2013 #49

Yes it's a terrible thing. Ganja Ninja May 2013 #54

Ahhh. The "he did it first" argument joeglow3 May 2013 #63

So you believe that anyone espousing right wing political views should be immune from scrutiny? Ganja Ninja May 2013 #65

I think are bull shit joeglow3 May 2013 #66

I fail to see how it was used to stifle dissent in this case. Ganja Ninja May 2013 #67

politics? Mothdust May 2013 #84

Actually, the Occupy stuff happened under *this* administration. Marr May 2013 #39

So what's your point? Ganja Ninja May 2013 #42

A lot of rap music advocates violence and crime joeglow3 May 2013 #50

Oh perish the thought that the cops would stop anyone just for playing loud rap music. Ganja Ninja May 2013 #51

some towns have ordinances Mothdust May 2013 #85

Such a dangerous mindset. Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #21

Are we sure that's the position we wish to take? Savannahmann May 2013 #23

You are right. I agree with you. Mothdust May 2013 #86

I agree they should be targeted for tax violations. Ganja Ninja May 2013 #24

And people and organizations who advocate for marijuana use Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #26

Like they don't do that now. Ganja Ninja May 2013 #27

Correct, but are you okay with that too? Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #29

What does that matter? Ganja Ninja May 2013 #33

and you'll happily support a republican administration making sure that cali May 2013 #28

Have you been in a long coma or something? Ganja Ninja May 2013 #31

While were at it.... Purplehazed May 2013 #32

Again like that isn't already happening. Ganja Ninja May 2013 #34

The IRS went beyond the scope of "going the extra mile" when they demanded that these SlimJimmy May 2013 #53

nah n/t fishwax May 2013 #30

It's wrong to target people based on political views Marrah_G May 2013 #44

+1 n/t X_Digger May 2013 #57

Thank you. nt woo me with science May 2013 #59

Excuse me? You're claiming with a straight face that something that we would ALL condemn if Douglas Carpenter May 2013 #72

I thought I was pretty clear...... Marrah_G May 2013 #73

sorry, I guess my attempt at irony doesn't always come across right Douglas Carpenter May 2013 #75

LOL- I'm just not awake! Marrah_G May 2013 #77

It's wrong to target them but they need to be investigated. octoberlib May 2013 #71

I disagee Marrah_G May 2013 #74

I disagree! No group should be targeted for their political views. hrmjustin May 2013 #76

if you claim a deduction because of a "home office" Mothdust May 2013 #78

If they got nothing to hide. jambo101 May 2013 #80

"Nothing to hide; pecwae May 2013 #87

Surely you arent saying Teabaggers are exempt jambo101 May 2013 #91

I think the IRS was doing their job. B Calm May 2013 #88