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zipplewrath

(16,698 posts)
18. That's sorta the point
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:44 PM
Feb 2012

Independents will decide the race. They may decide it by being so frustrated with the GOP that they just flat out throw up their hands and don't vote at all. They may decide to vote with the dems. The only way the GOP wins is if the independents show up and vote for the GOP. As you suggest, if the GOP is having trouble with their own voters, that doesn't bode well for their hopes for independent votes.

The reason that Romney is considered the biggest risk for Obama isn't because he is so popular with the "base" or the conservatives. Quite the opposite, he was seen as the best chance to peel off independents and the base would just have to "come along". That's changing right now because of the mess the GOP is making of their primary. It could be "repaired" by summer though. The dems best chance, even with Romney, is a good economic "summer". The independents tend to stay with a "winner", especially when they see their own situation improving. For them, it's a referendum on the incumbent. And as you suggest, even if it's no a great summer, they may have a permanent memory of the GOP from this spring that doesn't go away, and they basically just stay home.

But in the end the entire discussion is about independents, unless someone wants to truly talk about the left staying away. I don't see that happening at all.

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I think you're right. Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #1
agreed..............n/t dhill926 Feb 2012 #2
A strong, local GOTV effort will get even more of them out. MineralMan Feb 2012 #3
I wonder if we can come up with some plan Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #4
LOL! MineralMan Feb 2012 #7
A year ago I did not see it but that is all changing. nevergiveup Feb 2012 #5
Wrote a song about it, and it goes like this. WingDinger Feb 2012 #6
Dems won't decide this zipplewrath Feb 2012 #8
I see your point, but there are more registsered democrats in the U.S. than republicans. So, if... demosincebirth Feb 2012 #9
Yup zipplewrath Feb 2012 #12
Or they show up and the margin of victory for Democrats will be even larger. renie408 Feb 2012 #10
Sorta kinda zipplewrath Feb 2012 #13
I get conventional wisdom, but in THIS particular GE... renie408 Feb 2012 #16
That's sorta the point zipplewrath Feb 2012 #18
I hope you're right. Pab Sungenis Feb 2012 #11
That is my deepest hope. n/t arthritisR_US Feb 2012 #14
One need only ask HillWilliam Feb 2012 #15
Agreed Mr Dixon Feb 2012 #17
Yes they are kctim Feb 2012 #19
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