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Skidmore

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22. Exactly.

Tue May 14, 2013, 01:40 PM

May 2013

I don't think the public is educated well enough about the contents of the Patriot Act. It was passed in the heat of a moment of fear for the nation by people who were seeking to gain from endless war. The law needs to be changed and this nation needs to quit living in fear. It has become addicted to crises.

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The DOJ had Subpoenas to monitor the AP [View all] Pryderi May 2013 OP

judicial or administrative subpoena? nt geek tragedy May 2013 #1

No, not really nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #2

If we don't like the laws granting expansive powers to the Executive branch, then tell Pryderi May 2013 #5

2007 you'd lead the parade, thought so nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #8

Yes, I did and it's legal. Change the laws. nt Pryderi May 2013 #13

Good bye nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #15

Or anyone else that disagrees with you Floyd_Gondolli May 2013 #17

LOL. Off to the ignore list with you. FSogol May 2013 #41

Actually I've been on it for awhile Floyd_Gondolli May 2013 #43

S'okay. You always get the last word, too! randome May 2013 #45

I agree with you. The problem is the Patriot Act and similar laws apples and oranges May 2013 #16

EXACTLY! This is a great opportunity to restore some of our liberties. n/t Pryderi May 2013 #21

A great opportunity that will be missed because, as usual, we focus on the wrong things apples and oranges May 2013 #33

What makes you think they DEmocrats in Congress want these laws repealed? rhett o rick May 2013 #35

bwahahahahahaha!!!!! frylock May 2013 #46

Exactly. Skidmore May 2013 #22

and the Democrats will have to explain why they keep reauthorizing them. MNBrewer May 2013 #44

Does that mean they had to get approval from the 3-judge panel? kentuck May 2013 #3

This was no wiretap. Only a subpoena to the phone companies. randome May 2013 #10

So this is pen-register data, not actual contents of conversations. backscatter712 May 2013 #47

No actual content or wiretap. Just paper records of which numbers called which numbers. JaneyVee May 2013 #52

I don't know much about this story but apples and oranges May 2013 #4

all of them. They are transparent aren't they graham4anything May 2013 #9

"It�s an astonishing assault on core values of our society.� From the link. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #6

Still legal under the law. Change the law. n/t Pryderi May 2013 #11

Do you agree with "the law" that attacks the freedom of the press? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #14

Yes. I do. And I would recommend President Obama propose legislation be passed to address it. Pryderi May 2013 #19

It's worth noting that the press is only concerned about because it affects them directly. Skidmore May 2013 #23

+1 JustAnotherGen May 2013 #28

If you don't want to even discuss whether this was wise or should be legal, Yo_Mama May 2013 #20

Yup. but that won't stop the haters in the hate media/altmedia. graham4anything May 2013 #7

But it was 'secret' inasmuch as the DOJ does not immediately check in with AP about its activities. randome May 2013 #12

The Attorney General is the entity that grants them Yo_Mama May 2013 #18

thank you very much for the helpful info. cali May 2013 #26

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. http://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/50.10 Melinda May 2013 #24

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"wherever possible" we're talking about a story that endangered CIA operatives lives and National Pryderi May 2013 #31

no, it certainly is not the end of the story cali May 2013 #25

Who says they were 'secretly' granted? randome May 2013 #29

one little acronym for you: FISA cali May 2013 #37

That has to do with wiretapping and physical evidence. I don't see how FISA applies here. randome May 2013 #42

Journalism in the US has become an underground morningfog May 2013 #32

Im lost demOcrat11 May 2013 #34

no. that is NOT the story. sheesh. cali May 2013 #38

I could care less about Obama admin being sabotaged demOcrat11 May 2013 #39

Who would want to live in a society where the government cannot have free access to sources Douglas Carpenter May 2013 #36

For most peeps yes madokie May 2013 #40

If it were the end of the story, there would be an end to the subject FlynnArcher72 May 2013 #48

Welcome to DU my friend! hrmjustin May 2013 #49

Thank you :) FlynnArcher72 May 2013 #50

Good! Glad you came aboard! hrmjustin May 2013 #51