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meow2u3

(25,250 posts)
Tue May 14, 2013, 03:14 PM May 2013

Is the N.R.A. Un-American? (hint: the answer is yes) [View all]

The more militant members of the N.R.A. and most of its leaders may be un-American.

By “militant” I don’t mean those who wish to protect recreational shooting and hunting; nor do I mean those who, like Justice Antonin Scalia, believe that there is a constitutional right to defend one’s home and family with firearms. These are respectable positions (although I am deeply unpersuaded by the second). I mean those who read the Second Amendment as proclaiming the right of citizens to resist the tyranny of their own government, that is, of the government that issued and ratified the Constitution in the first place.

The reason this view may be un-American is that it sets itself against one of the cornerstones of democracy — the orderly transfer of power. A transfer of power is orderly when it is effected by procedural rules that are indifferent to the partisan, ideological affiliations of either the party exiting power or the party taking power. A transfer is disorderly when it is effected by rebellion, invasion, military coup or any other use of force.

Those who are engaged in a disorderly transfer believe that their actions are inspired by the highest of motives — the desire to set right what has gone terribly wrong. Somehow the forces of evil have gained the levers of power, and unless they are dislodged, the values necessary to the sustaining of everything we cherish will be overwhelmed. Violence is ugly, but if tyranny is to be defeated, it may be necessary. Given tyranny’s resilience and its tendency to fill any available political space, we must always be ready; the price of liberty is eternal vigilance.

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/13/is-the-n-r-a-un-american/?smid=tw-share

The more militant NRA members and their leaders MAY be un-American? They're un-American--and anti-American--for sure!

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I'm about as anti gun as most but what is wrong with resisting tyranny newmember May 2013 #1
Agreed. Lizzie Poppet May 2013 #2
I don't know if the OP intended to imply that but yeah...fuck the NRA newmember May 2013 #8
It depends. If you start shooting/harming innocent people in your quest for power. . . . . . . Hoyt May 2013 #12
Then it's just murder newmember May 2013 #16
And who is going to enforce that if the right wingers initiate a war against what they perceive as Hoyt May 2013 #17
You are preaching to the choir here with me newmember May 2013 #18
Yep - like White Southerners who resisted Northern Tyranny after the Civil War el_bryanto May 2013 #4
agree 100% with your post newmember May 2013 #6
You're right and I am furious mountain grammy May 2013 #25
Why are you un persuadable on using firearms premium May 2013 #3
I had the same question. NaturalHigh May 2013 #27
Was power "orderly transfered" from the British Crown? Megalo_Man May 2013 #5
Thank You For The Laugh, Sir The Magistrate May 2013 #7
No, thank YOU! Megalo_Man May 2013 #10
Good Luck With That, Sir The Magistrate May 2013 #11
As it happens, yes, this is a myth Demo_Chris May 2013 #31
I have never been a member of the NRA. Jenoch May 2013 #9
They damn sure tried in the last election, and their leadership are the worst of right wingers. Hoyt May 2013 #13
There was no 'transition of power', Jenoch May 2013 #14
No help from NRA and right wing gun lovers. Hoyt May 2013 #15
I am aware that the NRA supports Jenoch May 2013 #20
As long as yahoos ain't trying to "transition" into power by their guns, who cares. Hoyt May 2013 #21
Words have meaning. Jenoch May 2013 #26
How did the NRA attempt to impede the transition of power? premium May 2013 #23
Pretty much same. Kind of like gunners stuck on gun nomenclature. Hoyt May 2013 #24
Well, I guess you won't mind hearing it one more time. Megalo_Man May 2013 #29
They both feed bullets into the guns yahoos drool over. No difference in function. Hoyt May 2013 #32
I just explained the difference in function to you. Megalo_Man May 2013 #33
Typical gun cultist obfuscation. Heard it a thousand times. Don't care because Hoyt May 2013 #34
OK, gotcha. Enjoy your ignorance. Megalo_Man May 2013 #35
You should start a Committee of Un-American activities Riftaxe May 2013 #19
Actually, the author says "yes and no" is the answer. aikoaiko May 2013 #22
Of course not. Hell, read the last paragraph. Megalo_Man May 2013 #30
I don't know about un-American, Jamaal510 May 2013 #28
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