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78. Get a clue the OP says drivers need to change their ways

Reply to CreekDog (Reply #61)

Wed May 15, 2013, 02:09 PM

May 2013

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Solo Drivers should be appreciative of buses, bicyclists, pedestrians and carpoolers -not resentful [View all] CreekDog May 2013 OP

:) CreekDog May 2013 #1

Some of us don't have a choice in driving solo, liberalhistorian May 2013 #2

well you didn't read the OP because you are arguing with things I didn't say CreekDog May 2013 #4

You are implying that people who bike liberalhistorian May 2013 #5

Well, they are. GliderGuider May 2013 #56

How does it feel? pintobean May 2013 #9

Anyone who can afford a car can afford a bicycle. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #11

Yes, I'm sure our bank would love us liberalhistorian May 2013 #12

In lieu of, not in addition to. n/t Chan790 May 2013 #22

thank you CreekDog May 2013 #47

Try dropping off your 2 year old at day care on a bike. JDPriestly May 2013 #54

Dutch cargo bikes will carry two year olds. My neighbors have one. GoneOffShore May 2013 #65

Agreed on this one: JDPriestly May 2013 #75

Yes, there are speedometers for bicycles. Gormy Cuss May 2013 #69

Drivers "speed up to pass bicyclists for no good reason." JDPriestly May 2013 #74

When the bicycle is traveling the speed limit, passing is done for no good reason Gormy Cuss May 2013 #81

That is not in any way practical or realistic in the liberalhistorian May 2013 #68

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #111

Some people who live in rural areas still manage to car pool and some think up solutions Luminous Animal May 2013 #21

Whining??? onpatrol98 May 2013 #102

I don't have a choice either. meaculpa2011 May 2013 #52

At least half the accidents here involve a spandex butt breaking the law himself. hobbit709 May 2013 #3

Same here. At a 4 way stop a bicycle did not stop and then the driver.... Logical May 2013 #6

Shhhh! liberalhistorian May 2013 #13

Hey, go ahead and post the numbers of deaths caused by pedestrians and cyclists CreekDog May 2013 #16

and you avoid zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #18

Where did I avoid any accountability for bikes? Nowhere. CreekDog May 2013 #19

It is precisely because cars are so dangerous that bicyclists need to be very careful. JDPriestly May 2013 #55

Sorry, but I've seen or heard of way too many stupid, reckless actions liberalhistorian May 2013 #23

Cars, bikes, and pedestrians all have equal rights of way on roads Luminous Animal May 2013 #26

Apparently, you're having some trouble reading. liberalhistorian May 2013 #66

A pedestrian or cyclist death does not automatically mean the car was at fault GiaGiovanni May 2013 #35

Study: Bikes Hit More Pedestrians Than Previously Thought GiaGiovanni May 2013 #37

you quote almost the whole article except this about cars: CreekDog May 2013 #48

I quote the first 4 paragraphs out of 6--4 paragraphs is the limit here for fair use GiaGiovanni May 2013 #72

Because the bicyclist should't have to stop if the car already is stopped. Luminous Animal May 2013 #24

You're saying that bikes should not have to follow traffic laws GiaGiovanni May 2013 #39

Bullshit! Three other cars waited their turn! This asshole.... Logical May 2013 #59

If all the people on bikes and pedestrians all got into cars CreekDog May 2013 #94

Stupid excuse for a biker to be an asshole! I ride and follow the... Logical May 2013 #97

BREAKING: STUDY FINDS MORE THAN 50% OF TX ACCIDENTS CAUSED BY CYCLISTS DisgustipatedinCA May 2013 #7

Study: Bikes Hit More Pedestrians Than Previously Thought GiaGiovanni May 2013 #40

Half the accidents? Is that a number based... LanternWaste May 2013 #67

Really? They heat/cool their homes with a solar system? REP May 2013 #8

I can't believe your hostility to pedestrians as well as the environmental benefits of not driving CreekDog May 2013 #15

Hostility = "use crosswalks" Okey dokey REP May 2013 #62

My OP described LEGAL CROSSINGS using crosswalks and walk signals, you ignored that CreekDog May 2013 #110

No, I didn't ignore it; I simply added to the subject. REP May 2013 #115

" Bikes (motor and pedal): try to stay out of a car's blindspot" Luminous Animal May 2013 #28

Generally speaking, avoid the back, passenger side corner of the car. GiaGiovanni May 2013 #41

Blindspot awareness is taught in the motorcycle licensing course REP May 2013 #64

Exactly. It's also taught in Driver's Ed for future motorists GiaGiovanni May 2013 #73

About #5: Brigid May 2013 #10

LOL! Thanks for that! smirkymonkey May 2013 #14

It bothers me to no end when I'm in a car and the driver complains the pedestrian is going too slow CreekDog May 2013 #17

Indeed. And even more so when it is raining. Luminous Animal May 2013 #30

As long as cyclists follow the traffic laws, they are greatly appreciated GiaGiovanni May 2013 #20

what about pedestrians? CreekDog May 2013 #25

You can't have your cake and eat it too, kid GiaGiovanni May 2013 #27

pedestrians who follow the laws are hit all the time CreekDog May 2013 #29

According to the NTSB, pedestrian crashes are actually down overall GiaGiovanni May 2013 #32

i'm asking you how i can safely cross a street CreekDog May 2013 #34

Actually, you asked about pedestrians in general and I answered your query. GiaGiovanni May 2013 #36

No, I asked you about a legal pedestrian crossing that is often dangerous CreekDog May 2013 #43

Post #29 asked about pedestrians in general; that was answered with an NTSB report GiaGiovanni May 2013 #76

If we build bicycle paths along the road, you should use them. tritsofme May 2013 #31

Sometimes those roadside bicycle paths Art_from_Ark May 2013 #33

Build paved paths and maintain them and cyclists will use them Gormy Cuss May 2013 #71

I find that is not always the case. tritsofme May 2013 #101

Have you ever walked or ridden on the path? Gormy Cuss May 2013 #107

what looks like a bike path to you may have walkers on it CreekDog May 2013 #108

It doesn't mean I have to like it tritsofme May 2013 #109

Ghost bikes. I frequently meet a friend in town for coffee... DreamGypsy May 2013 #38

"Here is a dead child. Don't you feel guilty now?" GiaGiovanni May 2013 #42

What was the poster "trumping"? I gathered he agreed with the OP Fumesucker May 2013 #50

The poster was using a common strategy of trumping logical argumentation with emotional manipulation GiaGiovanni May 2013 #82

Ah you're offended by the dead child -cause you don't want anything done about it CreekDog May 2013 #95

Actually, I don't like the misuse of dead children to score political points GiaGiovanni May 2013 #100

there is nothing Niceguy1 May 2013 #44

i didn't say there was anything wrong with being a solo driver CreekDog May 2013 #45

The subject of bicycles sure makes people say stupid things Fumesucker May 2013 #51

a head on collison Niceguy1 May 2013 #53

So you're saying as many are killed by bicycles as by cars? CreekDog May 2013 #96

just because something doesn't kill you Niceguy1 May 2013 #103

you're saying there are more injuries caused by bicycles as there are from cars? CreekDog May 2013 #104

no I am saying from my experience Niceguy1 May 2013 #105

A 200 lb bicycle, irresponsibly driven, can be more dangerous than a 4000 lb car driven well GiaGiovanni May 2013 #90

Force = mass * acceleration, and classical physics brooks no arguments. n/t DisgustipatedinCA May 2013 #113

Nonsense. Other properties like agility, visibility and the driver's reactions play a role in GiaGiovanni May 2013 #114

Sometimes there are people driving who don't give a rat's ass about the safety of others. auntAgonist May 2013 #46

How horrible. This is why I keep posting OP's on this topic. CreekDog May 2013 #49

I have no problem with these modes of transportation get the red out May 2013 #57

These kind of OPs bug the hell out of me upaloopa May 2013 #58

Thank you, THAT is what I was trying to say. liberalhistorian May 2013 #60

i only asked people to not be resentful and to consider their safety --my OP was not anti-car CreekDog May 2013 #63

Again, how does it feel? pintobean May 2013 #70

You said drivers should change their behavior. upaloopa May 2013 #77

I'm a driver and that's one reason I wrote the OP CreekDog May 2013 #79

We most likely all drive there are bad drivers and good drivers upaloopa May 2013 #80

I didn't offer instruction, just a caution. Second, I think intersections need to be redesigned CreekDog May 2013 #83

Ok maybe you agree with this upaloopa May 2013 #84

that's my point with the OP and with my comment on intersections, keeping cars and people apart CreekDog May 2013 #85

Ok my apologies upaloopa May 2013 #87

do you think ANY of the drivers that need to change think they are bad drivers? CreekDog May 2013 #88

you're offended at being asked to not be resentful of bicyclists and pedestrians? wow, really??? CreekDog May 2013 #61

Get a clue the OP says drivers need to change their ways upaloopa May 2013 #78

There is also a lack of responsibility on the part of some cyclists in this thread GiaGiovanni May 2013 #86

i keep asking you about pedestrians crossing legally and you keep saying "too bad" CreekDog May 2013 #89

Asked and answered 3 times, kid. Post #32, #36, & #76 GiaGiovanni May 2013 #92

Bike insurance? Mariana May 2013 #91

As more cyclists enter the roadway, the possibility of accidents will rise GiaGiovanni May 2013 #93

What a safety advocate you are. Only idea you had was bike insurance CreekDog May 2013 #98

Bike insurance is a responsible way to cycle GiaGiovanni May 2013 #99

I have no doubt the insurance industry Mariana May 2013 #112

Number 5 - YES on the disability part! Lunacee_2013 May 2013 #106

When did you start harboring this dislike toward people who are alone in cars? Honeycombe8 May 2013 #116