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In reply to the discussion: Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over ‘Civil Disturbances' [View all]AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)13. The author of the article is wrong.
In his second paragraph, he wrote:
" By making a few subtle changes to a regulation in the U.S. Code titled Defense Support of Civilian Law Enforcement Agencies the military has quietly granted itself the ability to police the streets without obtaining prior local or state consent, upending a precedent that has been in place for more than two centuries.' "
To begin with, there is no such animal as "a regulation in the U.S. Code." There are regulations. And there is the U.S. Code. Congress passes statutes which, when codified, become part of the U.S. Code. The various administrative agencies, as authorized by Congress, adopt regulations. There are no regulations in the U.S. Code.
The actual language of the regulations being discussed can be found here at the GPO's web site:
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2013-04-12/pdf/2013-07802.pdf
The author of the article repeats what a limited number of people have said, that the phrase "civil disturbances" is too vague. He hints that the Posse Comitatus Act would be suspended. That Act provides that whoever willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute U.S. laws, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, shall be fined under title 18, U.S.C., or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.
The response by the DOD is that
"Civil disturbance is an approved definition in the DoD Dictionary and makes no reference to the Posse Comitatus Act being suspended. Also this rule does not make reference to the suspension of Posse Comitatus Act. It lists those actions that are permissible and restricted under the Act. The author also recommends that Congress, rather than DoD, make the language clear and unambiguous. (under Comment #1, p. 21827)
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2013-04-12/pdf/2013-07802.pdf
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Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over ‘Civil Disturbances' [View all]
appal_jack
May 2013
OP
It is distrubing and people even here were cheering this on......you have no rights.
bowens43
May 2013
#1
The link in the article is to US Code as of January 2012. Three things wrong with this:
leveymg
May 2013
#2
Please show one, ONE time in this nation's history that the military arbitrarily decided to
Ikonoklast
May 2013
#8
There have been emergency plans in place that deal with a catastrophic event such as this since the
Ikonoklast
May 2013
#16
That's brazenly untrue, that nothing is new. Of course it's something new.
woo me with science
May 2013
#17
There have ALWAYS been plans that included the military in case of catastrophe.
Ikonoklast
May 2013
#22
Your arguments here should embarrass you, but especially that last gem of a post.
woo me with science
May 2013
#35
Before posting this, I investigated whether it was nuttery or not. I think it's legit.
appal_jack
May 2013
#4
You're on the right track and thanks for posting. The militarization of the local police function is
byeya
May 2013
#12
The Final Rule was published in the Federal Register 4/12 with effective date of 5/13/13
pinboy3niner
May 2013
#10