Holder is not a progressive. Holder is not a civil libertarian.

[Tarheel_Dem]

69. "Third Wayers" make far lefters ineffective? Isn't it the voters who make that choice? You need...

to win, and prove you can win nationally, not just play the role of spoiler to get mad props from me. Otherwise, it's just the usual sound & fury, signifying nothing. "Gore=Bush" was a popular refrain from folks like you in '00. I can't help but wonder how much different things might be today had some idiots not been suckered by a third party Charlatan, whose only goal was to help the Republicans, you guys claim to despise.

I don't buy any of your bullshit. No group of people has given more assistance to the rightwing of this country than the far left (or those who pretend to be) Take some responsibility for the election of Bush/Cheney, and how that changed this country for many years to come. You guys smell blood in the water, but you've smelled it before, and when the smoke clears & nothing sticks, you'll be on to the next poutrage du jour.

The talking points of some of our more "principled" posters seems to be if you're just liberal enough & loud enough, you can win anywhere. I bet Kooch, Russ, Jill, Roseanne & Rocky et al would've paid a mint for that bit of wisdom.