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polly7

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310. Previous obsession?

Wed May 15, 2013, 07:17 PM

May 2013

Whatcha talking about? The nasty *toilet thing you tried to originally blame on men here?

This?:

polly7 (7,755 posts)
31. Wow. You should make up your mind.

redqueen (99,811 posts)
128. Yes, it's usually men who get to make up the words used to degrade women.

Last edited Tue May 8, 2012, 11:29 PM USA/ET - Edit history (4)

And then only by absorbing the patriarchy's values do women start to use those words against each other (slut, bitch, etc.)

Fucktoilet was coined by a radical feminist (IIRC), to describe the way far too many women are treated by far too many men in this rape culture we're in. (During the Rape of Nanking, the soldiers did refer to the women and children they raped as public toilets, but AFAIK that isn't related.)

It seems fitting to me to use Twisty's term, and I'm glad that the naughty-word-list/anti-censorship/Lenny-Bruce-wannabe crowd finally has a term that they can at least pretend to be offended by.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1240&pid=88696

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022391217#post31

People here were actually offended by it. There was no pretending.

As to the quote, my apologies ... I didn't read it closely enough, but as you posted it you certainly agreed with it, no?: "Loved this post from the comments:"

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Women in public, no matter how they're dressed, are not "inviting" ANYTHING. [View all] redqueen May 2013 OP

Cold Truth, Ma'm The Magistrate May 2013 #1

not even remotely the 'cold truth', sir. cali May 2013 #288

Not Worth Arguing About, Ma'am: Those Who See Will See, Those Who Will Not Will Not The Magistrate May 2013 #290

"Not Worth Arguing About, Ma'am" redqueen May 2013 #296

An Old Campaigner, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2013 #301

stares... stklurker May 2013 #2

Please do so to women who are accompanied by large, strong-looking men. redqueen May 2013 #3

because those men are the ones you value? how pre-historicly caveman galileoreloaded May 2013 #4

... redqueen May 2013 #11

lmfao.. ya. i just typed a whole post on that swooosh, then deleted. why bother. so funny. nt seabeyond May 2013 #13

nah, i got it pretty clear, ergo my post. galileoreloaded May 2013 #34

Don't bother...not worth the effort Roland99 May 2013 #102

No, she suggested he should try it BainsBane May 2013 #147

Cat call != stare. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #160

There is a difference between looking and staring BainsBane May 2013 #168

Absolutely. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #174

I just got home from shopping. Starry Messenger May 2013 #210

I agree. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #215

i find hypocritical views on gender endlessly fascinating because I don't see it. galileoreloaded May 2013 #173

Now you're back to not seeing gender? BainsBane May 2013 #175

reading comprehension galileoreloaded May 2013 #176

Yes,.no one can comprehend your secret code BainsBane May 2013 #183

What little there is of it! chervilant May 2013 #322

Twist & distort & ignore intentions lark May 2013 #196

Well I don't know if you live in flyover country, but in New York, closeupready May 2013 #204

im what women call "attractive", outspoken, and have no fear of judgement.. galileoreloaded May 2013 #205

cool story, bro redqueen May 2013 #221

Not getting it. lark May 2013 #419

Do you really not get that post? chervilant May 2013 #321

ah yes, the "freeze" zazen May 2013 #353

Excellent post. redqueen May 2013 #355

why are you stereotyping large, strong-looking men? datasuspect May 2013 #30

It doesn't matter if they are or not. People naturally don't act so disrespectfully towards them redqueen May 2013 #35

that's a very sexist characterization datasuspect May 2013 #42

that behavior is sexist, yes BainsBane May 2013 #151

You have to wonder if it's intentional? sufrommich May 2013 #70

Good point. nt redqueen May 2013 #75

After claiming they don't see gender BainsBane May 2013 #154

i dated a woman who communicated like you once. galileoreloaded May 2013 #182

Please BainsBane May 2013 #184

but i'm large and strong looking!!! seems all the rage down here. nt galileoreloaded May 2013 #191

go back and reread my post BainsBane May 2013 #193

Ah. Rational boy and emotional woman... Democracyinkind May 2013 #440

Definitely or hootinholler May 2013 #188

You cannot stop people from staring question everything May 2013 #62

You are actually defending rude behavior. Wow. nt redqueen May 2013 #68

no...it's human nature Roland99 May 2013 #104

it's still rude to stare ... we are capable of overcoming our "human nature" Scout May 2013 #113

depends on the situation doesn't it? Roland99 May 2013 #116

... and we can OVERCOME the base nature Scout May 2013 #396

Exactly get the red out May 2013 #213

Of course, you can stop staring wryter2000 May 2013 #406

Using perceived ownership of the women by big strong-looking men as defense of your point is odd. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #125

You would be surprised at how rare that is in America LittleBlue May 2013 #140

I notice none of the usual suspects are addressing post 7. redqueen May 2013 #150

I will address it if you want LittleBlue May 2013 #153

I would be delighted. redqueen May 2013 #159

Ah, I see what you mean LittleBlue May 2013 #189

If it's absent minded that's one thing. redqueen May 2013 #195

How do you discern if it is absent minded since we can't read minds adigal May 2013 #267

This isn't about a court proceeding. Even if you don't get caught, you should feel like an asshole redqueen May 2013 #271

I think some people want to be stared at, and I do agree with you adigal May 2013 #278

You present yet another rdiculous example. Why? redqueen May 2013 #282

at�trac�tive /əˈtraktiv/ Adjective (of a person) Appealing to look at; sexually alluring: lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #226

In fact, please stare at every big, strong looking man who attracts any attention from you. redqueen May 2013 #7

What am I supposed to say? LittleBlue May 2013 #156

A 'stare' is in the eye of the beholder. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #170

Ah, the legendary Post #7. Here it is! Warren DeMontague May 2013 #316

I am a big boy and am thus able to control whether I stare at something or not. (nt) Posteritatis May 2013 #265

I respectfully disagree. Body glitter on cleavage invites looks NightWatcher May 2013 #5

Staring is disrespectful. This is a fact. redqueen May 2013 #14

Sorry, I simply cannot agree leftynyc May 2013 #32

Well then an extra special thank you to you and everyone else redqueen May 2013 #41

Like you did with my post? pintobean May 2013 #51

If a woman wears clothing in public that expose practically all of her bare breasts, lumpy May 2013 #67

It doesn't matter leftynyc May 2013 #73

But the OP wasn't about touching, was it? adigal May 2013 #270

like the big strong men you seem to ogle? galileoreloaded May 2013 #49

Who made you the arbiter of this?? cliffordu May 2013 #425

Define staring? 30 seconds? 10 seconds? n-t Logical May 2013 #430

Link to what the OP is apparently about. pintobean May 2013 #6

Profiles can lie. randome May 2013 #10

Okay, I just double checked pintobean May 2013 #20

lol woolldog May 2013 #55

you had to check.... keroro gunsou May 2013 #354

What about someone wearing something like this? woolldog May 2013 #8

OK, that pic on the right? That's inviting stares. siligut May 2013 #45

Celebrities on the red carpet posing for pictures are SO FUCKING OBVIOUSLY not the subject of the OP redqueen May 2013 #56

I understand and agree with your OP redqueen siligut May 2013 #88

I figured... redqueen May 2013 #95

Wise choice siligut May 2013 #99

The language in your OP woolldog May 2013 #146

What about how these ordinary people are dressed, then... pacalo May 2013 #332

heh woolldog May 2013 #152

Bet the shoe make your toes go numb Half-Century Man May 2013 #134

So men should only speak when spoken to? randome May 2013 #9

yes appropriate behavior for setting would be appropriate behavior Warren Stupidity May 2013 #38

And saying "hello" is not a pickup line. Bonobo May 2013 #338

So it is a pick up line. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #344

No, it's a greeting. Bonobo May 2013 #345

Have you ever considered how annoying it might be to be accosted by strangers Warren Stupidity May 2013 #347

She can talk or not talk. Bonobo May 2013 #351

Some people on this board who fancy themselves smart closeupready May 2013 #360

I think you kinda nailed it. Bonobo May 2013 #362

Equally messed up that 60 people have recced this thread. closeupready May 2013 #365

For 367 replies, 60 is not much. nt Bonobo May 2013 #368

While true in a relative sense, are there really closeupready May 2013 #389

LOL, just now I realized, that T-Mobile Frankenstein commercial! closeupready May 2013 #416

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass May 2013 #386

You know what's truly revealing, to me... redqueen May 2013 #390

Yes, it is strange. Because even if a poster understands this issue, there is no reason Zorra May 2013 #431

I do hope that with every outburst of tantrums redqueen May 2013 #437

Way more defensiveness (on their part, not yours) than necessary. nomorenomore08 May 2013 #433

Who we are pintobean May 2013 #434

Maybe you're right. I don't know. nomorenomore08 May 2013 #435

See my response to her. Tl:dr version is, context is appropriate, Dash87 May 2013 #383

I personally don't see any harm in "hello." Dash87 May 2013 #380

Did you read the 'Can I buy you a cup of coffee' blog post? redqueen May 2013 #388

No I grew up in the 70's with a lot of great radical women. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #395

"It really isn't rocket science." redqueen May 2013 #402

Okay, I'll confess, I'm not clear on this. Dr. Strange May 2013 #12

Oh for fuck's sake. redqueen May 2013 #18

Then stop instigating the game with transparent crap OP'S like this one. cliffordu May 2013 #436

I'm totally staring at you right now. Orrex May 2013 #234

Well, in that case... Dr. Strange May 2013 #241

This post is so full of funny I can't breathe. I'm dying here... Inkfreak May 2013 #279

HAHAHAHAHAHAH..... Nay May 2013 #392

I really don't understand how this isn't clear. Dash87 May 2013 #15

Look at this thread full of men tying themselves in knots redqueen May 2013 #19

sorry, it ain't just men. your op was a silly generalization full of self-righteous shit cali May 2013 #294