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AgingAmerican

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157. No

Reply to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #156)

Wed May 15, 2013, 10:45 PM

May 2013

They don't go on for years, finding nothing.

The Financial Crisis Commission recommended prosecutions. Nothing came of it.

The deregulation did not legalize what they were doing. The Bush administration regulatory agencies simply refused to enforce the laws.

What laws did they break? Are you kidding me? They committed mortgage backed security fraud. Bundled mortgages into multiple funds then sold them as single entities. Misrepresented the soundness of investments and pushed them onto investors. Foreclosed on houses they didn't own. Gave huge loans to people without checking their ability to pay. Created adjustable rate mortgages and caused the interest rate to jump to predatory levels. Putting together financial packages designed to fail, then betting against them while selling them to investors. Robo signing foreclosures.

And on, and on, and on

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Eric Holder NEEDS to be fired, enough is enough [View all] DainBramaged May 2013 OP

FIRED for what bigdarryl May 2013 #1

One question DainBramaged May 2013 #11

Don't forget his refusal to prosecute Bush Admin. war crimes. nt. premium May 2013 #21

Marijuana is illegal. Tell Congress to repeal federal laws against the use and possession of Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #45

Marijuana is legal here AgingAmerican May 2013 #70

What does your people able to smoke pot have to do with *FEDERAL* laws? Again, tell Congress Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #125

We don't need to have Congress do one single thing. We need a President truedelphi May 2013 #128

The attorney general does not "legalize" anything. He/she enforces the laws. Congress is responsible Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #131

Excuse me - please google re-scheduling of illegal substances. That ability is totally within the truedelphi May 2013 #132

You HAVE to get Congress on board with this first. No way around that. randome May 2013 #134

Too much money to be made off the WOD, premium May 2013 #138

Thank you. Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #142

I'm educated enough, and your snarkiness doesn't change the fact: state laws do not trump federal Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #135

True, premium May 2013 #140

That's absolutely true, too! Obamacare, the enforcement of the Voting Rights Act... Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #143

Not something I would recommend, premium May 2013 #146

And it has. In the 70s, the feds held back transportation funding until states complied with Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #151

I never ever EVER said state law trumps fed laws. truedelphi May 2013 #158

Torture is illegal too, and so is massive bank fraud tularetom May 2013 #95

+1 villager May 2013 #98

Gonzales and his ilk saw to it that 'torture' never occurred, according to their definition. randome May 2013 #101

Again, which SPECIFIC banking laws were broken? The problem is that we deregulated the banking Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #126

Right now, massive amounts of robo signing is going on truedelphi May 2013 #130

There are currently 2000 legal MMJ dispensaries operating in the U.S. randome May 2013 #48

Agenda, like the NRA and the gungeon? DainBramaged May 2013 #65

Since you mentioned MMJ, that seems to be yours. randome May 2013 #72

This is utter nonsense which you keep repeating even after you are informed Bluenorthwest May 2013 #85

They were suspected of selling MJ illegally. Says it right in the link. randome May 2013 #90

Who was suspected? The entire program? The article quotes the DOJ as saying they had Bluenorthwest May 2013 #115

I agree it's a waste of resources. It's also politics. randome May 2013 #118

DOMA is enforced. It is the law of the land. No one has stopped enforcing that law. This is beyond Bluenorthwest May 2013 #127

Well, I confess to being confused about DOMA then. randome May 2013 #129

It is the law of the land, enforced in IRS code and every other area of law. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #139

Yeah, you give 'the gays' SOME rights and then they want more. Sheesh! randome May 2013 #150

IT-JUST-WON'T-STOP DainBramaged May 2013 #110

Well, OK....So Long As The SQUEAKY CLEAN Ones Are Left Alone SoCalMusicLover May 2013 #113

That is absolute nonsense AgingAmerican May 2013 #74

Can't find anything on that yet. Have a link? randome May 2013 #83

Actually what you said was Bluenorthwest May 2013 #88

Local authorities side with the patients, not the Feds AgingAmerican May 2013 #91

I think 'flagrantly violate' covers the 1000 foot law. randome May 2013 #92

No it does not. Your claim was of 'flagrant violation of Federal Law' and all marijuana business is Bluenorthwest May 2013 #105

Maybe I'm wrong about that but this looks like there is something on the books that covers it. randome May 2013 #109

Your claim is that some Medical Marijuana Clinics are 'clean' under Federal Law and that is bullshit Bluenorthwest May 2013 #120

Oh, come on, federal law is not changed at the state level. randome May 2013 #124

I'd say the letters he sends to the 2000 and the IRS actions against them and the other forms of Bluenorthwest May 2013 #133

I don't think ALL currently operating dispensaries have been served notice, have they? randome May 2013 #137

Of course AgingAmerican May 2013 #89

Yes, but it's in response to a new bill. randome May 2013 #94

The DOJ was shutting down dispensaries before this bill AgingAmerican May 2013 #96

Okay, so why are they picking on Oregon? Were SOME dispensaries allowed to remain open? randome May 2013 #103

Wow thanks for keeping my thread at the top I lives it veddy mooch DainBramaged May 2013 #111

I don't know anything about Oregon dispensaries AgingAmerican May 2013 #141

Also, going after the high profile dispensaries sends a very powerful message premium May 2013 #147

Every case I've read about in depth madokie May 2013 #108

I sure wouldn't say the DOJ is always to be trusted but, yeah... randome May 2013 #112

Agreed madokie May 2013 #116

He should be fired for not doing his job. He is occupying the AG's office to let the 5-yr statute of AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #26

Zing..../nt think May 2013 #47

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For being Obama's attorney general. geek tragedy May 2013 #4

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So people who think the banksters and BushCo should be prosecuted cui bono May 2013 #59

Do you believe that the banksters and the politicians who enabled them AgingAmerican May 2013 #75

I think i know... hughee99 May 2013 #13

They do not have a prosecution fetish the way many do. nt geek tragedy May 2013 #18

You're right, I don't know what's wrong with people. hughee99 May 2013 #51

Prosecution fetish??? cui bono May 2013 #63

Bizarre what lengths people will go to cover up for the republicans. AgingAmerican May 2013 #76

Deregulation is the crime here. It's not robbery when Congress says, 'Here. Take what you want.' randome May 2013 #84

Again... prosecution fetish??? Hardly. cui bono May 2013 #87

We both know the answer to that one, my friend. Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #46

Exactly what Michael Eric Dyson said this morning on cilla4progress May 2013 #107

How about for refusing to prosecute the Bush Crime Family? premium May 2013 #8

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So the Bush admin. didn't use torture? premium May 2013 #10

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Bush Crime Family, premium May 2013 #14

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Trouble reading? premium May 2013 #19

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Good, use it. nt. premium May 2013 #24

This is A Democratic Site And The Bush Family IS A Crime Family HangOnKids May 2013 #36

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Please Keep Rolling Dude HangOnKids May 2013 #42

My pleasure, premium May 2013 #52

"He's dead Jim." Guy Whitey Corngood May 2013 #102

Oh noooooooooooooos. premium May 2013 #114

JEB? Is that you? hootinholler May 2013 #56

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No you're not stepping away hootinholler May 2013 #78

Yes, you do defend the Bushes AgingAmerican May 2013 #80

Yeah, because you don't want to learn anything, that would ruin your generalizations cui bono May 2013 #66

You don't hide it very well AgingAmerican May 2013 #79

Wait Aerows May 2013 #81

"I refuse to read anything beyond that from you." Yet you keep reading and replying. So which is it? Guy Whitey Corngood May 2013 #67

Apparently you never read the BCCI Report. blm May 2013 #55

Wow. I think you've gotten a little lost along the way. cui bono May 2013 #64

So all the abuses of the Bush administration were just leftist conspiracies? AgingAmerican May 2013 #77

I'm sorry but what the wall street bankers did wasn't illegal, and that's the sad truth and the Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #49

It's not theft when Congress opens the doors and says, 'Here. Take what you want.' randome May 2013 #53

That's right. The problem was created when Congress chose to abandon its constitutional Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #117

In so many ways, including the declaration of war. randome May 2013 #121

AMEN!! Thank you so much for exercising reason. Much appreciated. Regulatory oversight is a function Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #123

The looting was legal now? AgingAmerican May 2013 #82

You need a specific illegal action and you don't have one. The problem lies with our laws. Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #122

Robo-signing AgingAmerican May 2013 #136

And do you know for certain that these illegalities haven't been investigated or prosecuted? Do you Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #149

In five years "nothing has been found yet" AgingAmerican May 2013 #155

Investigations usually take many years. You know that. And again, if what bankers did were legal Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #156

No AgingAmerican May 2013 #157

They just say the banks are 'too big to fail, to big to punish' and wave away accountability Bluenorthwest May 2013 #100

Actually, writing the White House and Eric Holder is the action we should be taking... Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #119

"an embarrassment to America" geek tragedy May 2013 #3

Even a broken clock is right twice per day OmahaBlueDog May 2013 #31

"embarrassment to America" is lazy, shrill hyperbole, nt geek tragedy May 2013 #33

Yeah, unlike this: cui bono May 2013 #69

Meh otohara May 2013 #6

Just who do you think the Republicans would confirm as a replacement? Zen Democrat May 2013 #7

Move Napolitano over from DHS OmahaBlueDog May 2013 #32

OH NO, another hit it then quit it OP. OP gone missing? JaneyVee May 2013 #15

I'm at work genius.... DainBramaged May 2013 #17

So am I. And 'genius' is correct. JaneyVee May 2013 #23

Me too, sshhh, don't tell anyone Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #27

And I'm Harvey Walbanger.... DainBramaged May 2013 #35

Hi Harvey! JaneyVee May 2013 #41

Fired for nonfeascence. Fired for misplaced priorities and resources. Fired for failing byeya May 2013 #25

And who will replace him, Gonzalez? JaneyVee May 2013 #29

Really? You'd do better if you'd go missing based on that reply. n/t cui bono May 2013 #73

Can't wait to see him squirming in his seat this afternoon. Peregrine Took May 2013 #22

Yikes. I was going to post that Reagan had appointed him to a judgeship in 1988 ... Smarmie Doofus May 2013 #28

I don't know about "NEEDS to be fired." He may be offered up as a sacrifice. OmahaBlueDog May 2013 #30

Good historical analysis. byeya May 2013 #34

Even Grumpy Cat can't save the OP from an UNREC. sinkingfeeling May 2013 #37

Grumpy Cat is not upset DainBramaged May 2013 #62

Well, some of the pro-gun people told you that a long time ago. aikoaiko May 2013 #38

Holder is an idiot. The Link May 2013 #39

Naw. He's very intelligent but acting like an idiot while being a corporate tool. think May 2013 #44

This OP is the true embarrassment. MjolnirTime May 2013 #43

Where and when did the OP ever say or give the impression Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #50

every third post MjolnirTime May 2013 #71

I don't like Obama, really? DainBramaged May 2013 #60

oh good god... chillfactor May 2013 #54

You Really Like To Tell People What To Do Don't You? HangOnKids May 2013 #86

WWWAHHHGGGVVVBBBLLLAAAGGHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH DainBramaged May 2013 #144

I am not a fan of Holder and thought he should have been let go.... NCTraveler May 2013 #57

He did nothing to be fired for. I think he should consider stepping down as soon as this stuff calms hrmjustin May 2013 #58

Holder has been very effective in protecting voting rights and effective on redistricting issues Gothmog May 2013 #68

But horrible at prosecuting thieves AgingAmerican May 2013 #93

Or prosecuting war crimes nt. premium May 2013 #104

An excellent point fellow aging person DainBramaged May 2013 #145

He should have been dumped after the first term, at the latest villager May 2013 #97

K&R - Holder has been a terrible attorney general from day one, yep, he should be fired quinnox May 2013 #99

Personally, I always thought he was a bad choice for the position. Nt Blue_In_AK May 2013 #106

Didn't he recuse himself from the AP applegrove May 2013 #148

Holder is not going anywhere. This AP story is about to blow up in the Republican's faces. Ikonoklast May 2013 #152

When I saw Sensenbrenner asking Holder about the AP story I got the sense he was trying to figure hrmjustin May 2013 #153

Holder is being rather coy, but he did recuse himself on this. Ikonoklast May 2013 #154

He passed "embarrassment" years ago. NaturalHigh May 2013 #159