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1StrongBlackMan

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50. LOL ...

Thu May 16, 2013, 12:35 AM

May 2013

I ask how YOU got what you did from what I didn't say ... and you accuse ME of dodging?

Do you agree that a good share of Washington the DC Democrats do not want progressive legislation including the President because their corporate sponsors dont want progressive legislation?

No ... I do not agree. I see the Blue Dogs not wanting progressive legislation because they are, generally, conservatives that caucus with the Democrats; not because of "corporate sponsors."

No ... I do not agree. I see President Obama wanting (more) progressive legislation; but he has the ability to count and knows what can and cannot pass through this Congress. He would rather get something done; than pursue some quixotic progressive mission. After all ... he, unlike most progressive, has an obligation to govern.

No ... I don't agree. I see the corporate sponsor holding back progressive legislation (among Democrats), pretty much the same as I see the right's liberal media meme ... the figment of over-active imaginations.

Seriously???? You really don't see this:

... a good share of Washington the DC Democrats do not want progressive legislation including the President because their corporate sponsors dont want progressive legislation ...

and, this:

I believe a great leader should be able to influence his party.

As two contradictory statements? Really??

Tell me ... what amount a leadership would get you to go for something that you are motivated to oppose? What amount of leadership could President Obama demonstrate that would have you oppposing Medicare? ... assuming, of course, you are a Democrat; and assuming he would propose that and, assuming

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Glad you are finally figuring it out. nm rhett o rick May 2013 #18

Do you realize how ridiculous ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2013 #27

Your facetious comment aside, I am open to counter arguments. Is the President rallying Democratic rhett o rick May 2013 #32

And how ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2013 #39

So if progressive legislation is passed, the President gets the credit, but if it doesnt pass, he rhett o rick May 2013 #42

Where did you get that from what I said? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2013 #43

I notice that you dont address what I say but choose to try to put words in my mouth rhett o rick May 2013 #49

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2013 #50

What makes you think the President wants progressive legislation? Give me a hint. rhett o rick May 2013 #51

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2013 #56

How callous. Maybe you are living comfortably and dont see those that are suffering and cant wait rhett o rick May 2013 #59

Don't lecture me ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2013 #61

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I would certainly hope that he could have influenced those decisions. Problem is rhett o rick May 2013 #44

I'm sure he could have infuenced the decisions NewJeffCT May 2013 #55

+1 That sums it up Harmony Blue May 2013 #45

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I completely agree ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2013 #58

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