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Kellerfeller

(397 posts)
27. Unless the proposal specifies a trans-vaginal, then
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 04:23 PM
Feb 2012

one is not required.

"which she said is the only way to perform a sonogram on women who are less than eight to 10 weeks pregnant"

That is simply not true. You can perform a sonogram on anyone. In most cases, it just won't show anything.

Unless the legislation specifies it, it is not worth getting bent out of shape about a TV since it is not required. If folks want to get upset about the sonogram requirement in the first place, that is perfectly legit.

But creating a hyperbolic argument to oppose it doesn't help. It basically says "We couldn't get upset enough about the real requirement so we are going to get upset about a requirement that isn't a requirement". That turns logical people off to the cause in a heartbeat.

That being said, from HB-15

&quot 4) "Sonogram" means the use of ultrasonic waves for
diagnostic or therapeutic purposes, specifically to monitor an
unborn child."

(B) the physician who is to perform the abortion
displays the sonogram images in a quality consistent with current
medical practice in a manner that the pregnant woman may view them;
(C) the physician who is to perform the abortion
provides, in a manner understandable to a layperson, a verbal
explanation of the results of the sonogram images, including a
medical description of the dimensions of the embryo or fetus, the
presence of cardiac activity, and the presence of external members
and internal organs; and

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/82R/billtext/html/HB00015F.htm

The " in a quality consistent with current medical practice in a manner that the pregnant woman may view them;" part may infer that but it is open to interpretation.

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That's f#$ked up. Galraedia Feb 2012 #1
Each and every one of the people supporting this is sick. Wait Wut Feb 2012 #2
ouch dembotoz Feb 2012 #3
This is seriously fucked up Ohio Joe Feb 2012 #4
Solution? Leave Texas. Old and In the Way Feb 2012 #5
No all of us can. Lunacee2012 Feb 2012 #33
Yes, I understand that. Old and In the Way Feb 2012 #34
I'd settle for every woman Lunacee2012 Feb 2012 #36
So essentially they have legalized rape by device as long as the woman has an unwanted pregnancy? YellowRubberDuckie Feb 2012 #6
Pretty much XanaDUer Feb 2012 #7
That was my thought too n/t LadyHawkAZ Feb 2012 #19
Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what it is. Withywindle Feb 2012 #23
Can they FORCE you to listen/watch? YellowRubberDuckie Feb 2012 #24
LOL! I'm not in Texas but I would gladly fly down to help you whip some asses if tht is FORCIBLY Ecumenist Feb 2012 #48
I had one to find something that turned out to be nothing. It felt roguevalley Feb 2012 #25
I had multiple Dorian Gray Feb 2012 #37
Oh, great.... ThatsMyBarack Feb 2012 #8
I've had a bunch of these (ovarian and kidney cysts) REP Feb 2012 #9
Totally agree. emmadoggy Feb 2012 #16
Also agree laundry_queen Feb 2012 #21
I think this is also what I had. Rhiannon12866 Feb 2012 #28
I'm pretty sure endometrial band has to be measured that way REP Feb 2012 #29
I was there for surgery Rhiannon12866 Feb 2012 #30
My cervical cancer was treated in a teaching hospital, usually with a large audience REP Feb 2012 #35
I agree Dorian Gray Feb 2012 #38
Ever see a 5 week old embryo? HockeyMom Feb 2012 #10
Yeah, that's very true, but they don't care about embryonic or fetal development. joshcryer Feb 2012 #14
Well now, that could get entertaining... jmowreader Feb 2012 #47
Ectopic pregnancy could rupture with a 24 hour waiting period HockeyMom Feb 2012 #49
They don't care Johonny Feb 2012 #51
So how do we force the equivalent on men? Let's come up with something mainer Feb 2012 #11
Prostate exams mercuryblues Feb 2012 #12
And what if we like it? joshcryer Feb 2012 #15
A rectal exam using using this LiberalFighter Feb 2012 #31
Penile Catheter? HockeyMom Feb 2012 #52
This is "consent" under duress to be assaulted jsmirman Feb 2012 #13
these folks have reached the point of extremist RainDog Feb 2012 #41
I know we have to confront reality as we find it jsmirman Feb 2012 #43
true RainDog Feb 2012 #44
When I read the quotation jsmirman Feb 2012 #45
:) RainDog Feb 2012 #46
I'm curious vankuria Feb 2012 #17
omg -- what a revolting law fishwax Feb 2012 #18
What a degrading, disgusting, and immoral law. Riley18 Feb 2012 #20
It's a terminology thing Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #22
If a woman isn't very far along, she probably wouldn't be able to see much on a regular ultrasound Nikia Feb 2012 #26
Unless the proposal specifies a trans-vaginal, then Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #27
WHAT IN THE SAM HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE? vanlassie Feb 2012 #32
when i had my oldest son, they had to onitor him. i am sure it was not exactly the same but seabeyond Feb 2012 #39
Do men realize how archaic this sounds?? RockaFowler Feb 2012 #40
Wow. n/t RainDog Feb 2012 #42
This is beyond sick.....When did the Taliban take over Texass? truebrit71 Feb 2012 #50
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