Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
34. The statistics I cited are from the Household survey
Thu May 16, 2013, 11:46 AM
May 2013

which counts you as "working" even if you are picking up cans for recycling money, or mowed a lawn for $5 dollars. The real picture is WORSE.

This is a link to BLS data not carried on St, Louis Fed Fred:
http://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cpsatab8.htm

Check the box for non-seasonally adjusted non-ag wage and salary workers (which pulls out all those considered working who are looking for scrap, etc). Scroll down and click "retrieve data". You will get a table. Look at the number of the jobs in April 2007. Note that we have not come back to the levels of 2007. Six years and still a decline in jobs. Now check the graph indicator and change the start date to 1948 and then click the "Go" thingie. We have never had a post recession period where this number was so long in returning to the prior level before.

This hasn't happened since the GD.

This is the civilian labor force:


We need to have wages rise, but they don't rise because we have so many unemployed and underemployed people.

We are getting poorer because of the the lack of jobs:


And this has never happened since the GD either.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Every time I see an article trumpeting economic recovery chervilant May 2013 #1
k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t Laelth May 2013 #2
kr HiPointDem May 2013 #3
And again: Hoover policies beget Hoover result. MannyGoldstein May 2013 #4
Well, as much as we may like Michelle Obama... ananda May 2013 #8
And where's our Frances Perkins? Henry Wallace? MannyGoldstein May 2013 #10
Henry Wallace? He was red baited and then ignored. What a better country, potentially, if FDR byeya May 2013 #25
But Wallace was in FDR's cabinet from the start MannyGoldstein May 2013 #30
And he did do a lot of good. I would have liked to see him given the chance to continue. byeya May 2013 #33
Ain't Beyonce and Jay-Z ENOUGH?! WinkyDink May 2013 #14
+1 L0oniX May 2013 #29
102 million people are Not working. fasttense May 2013 #5
How many of that 102 million are under 18, or even 15? SheilaT May 2013 #11
The numbers are working age newmember May 2013 #16
The OP says more than a third of our *working age* population. n/t winter is coming May 2013 #17
105 million is about a third of our current population. SheilaT May 2013 #36
whatever the number is, it is TOO MANY Skittles May 2013 #37
That number includes retirees, children, people that are not in the labor force. Ikonoklast May 2013 #24
well, wall st has recovered its losses, and after all, isn't that what's really important? KG May 2013 #6
Thanks to the U.S. taxpayer. Octafish May 2013 #20
SO much for their hyped form of 'capitalism' Rex May 2013 #23
They've socialized the risk and privatized the reward. Octafish May 2013 #35
So true! Rex May 2013 #38
We don't have a jobs crisis, we have a stupidity crisis - give people money! reformist2 May 2013 #7
It used to be said that in the USA the only thing rationed is money. byeya May 2013 #26
I don't disagree with the OP, but it'd be nice to know how they calculated the figures. n/t magellan May 2013 #9
You know what the future is for jobs in this country? it won't be manufacturing newmember May 2013 #12
I dont' think it's as bad as Jim says, but we're getting there. mountain grammy May 2013 #13
You don't think JH did his HOMEWORK ON THIS TOPIC?? Personal anecdotes aren't refutation. WinkyDink May 2013 #15
I know that, and I know Jim does his homework. I'm not refuting Jim Hightower mountain grammy May 2013 #19
One thing the above posts bring out is the gray economy or the off-the-books economy byeya May 2013 #27
The statistics I cited are from the Household survey Yo_Mama May 2013 #34
This person is obviously not on board with the things are going great story. Safetykitten May 2013 #18
No, "the things are going great story" is, of course, a lie. mountain grammy May 2013 #21
K&R Find & vote for new candidates that support sensible economic policy. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #22
The lack of perspective makes this more like a RW hit piece bhikkhu May 2013 #28
No, it's real Yo_Mama May 2013 #32
Kicking for truthiness Yo_Mama May 2013 #31
The elimination of jobs is how the corporations reduce the power of the middle class. AdHocSolver May 2013 #39
This should be an OP n/t eridani May 2013 #40
Amazing, isn't it? SoCalDem May 2013 #42
One of my son's friends quit a $16.00 hr job to valet park cars in Vegas SoCalDem May 2013 #41
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Jim Hightower: Chilling ...»Reply #34