Holder is not a progressive. Holder is not a civil libertarian.

[Dragonfli]

165. Yes, cops appear to hold the misguided belief that it is their job to be anti-civil liberties

How do they not know basic law and that the civil liberties granted by our bill of rights and constitution ARE the law they are supposed to uphold, rather than fight against?

I had to try to explain what civil liberties are to what is either a LEO or an extreme authoritarian. He actually made the argument "the basic thrust of civil libertarians is to make it more difficult to arrest and put people in jail. That's an inherent conflict with people whose job it is to arrest people and put them in jail." He apparently thinks that it is the job of cops to simply put people in jail and their civil liberties somehow seek only to keep these cops from doing their job, he does not appear to know it is supposed to be their job to uphold the law, a really huge part of our law is the protection of our civil liberties, not a battle against them.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2855499

I tried to teach, but I don't think the actual laws regarding the rights of citizens mean much to cops and/or extreme authoritarians