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In reply to the discussion: I.D can explain more of the observed facts evolution can: how evidence works. [View all]Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)42. Against, of course, as is made plain in the OP - try actually reading it.
ID and evolution are both compatible with all the observable evidence.
ID would be compatible with any conceivable observable evidence, past, present or future. It therefore has no predictive power, and is useless.
Evolution would be incompatible with practically anything except what we actually do see. It can therefore be used to make predictions, and is useful.
The point I was trying - and clearly failing - to get across is that "evidence" is best understood in terms of Bayes' theorem:
(Estimate of probility of Hypothesis given Observation) = (Probability of Observation given Hypothesis) x (Initial estimate of probability of hypothesis)/(Initial estimate of probability of observation under average of hypotheses)
P(H|O) = P(O|H)P(H)/(P(O|H)P(H) + P(O|notH)P(notH))
In this case, the observation is "facts compatible with evolution". The probability of that given that evolution is a correct hypothesis is 1; the probability given that ID is a correct hypothesis is less than 1. So whatever your initial estimates of the probability of the two hypotheses (the P(H|O) term on the RHS), you should increase the likelihood you assign to evolution in light of it.
More generally "evidence for a hypothesis" is "any observation that is more likely if that hypothesis is true than if it isn't".
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I.D can explain more of the observed facts evolution can: how evidence works. [View all]
Donald Ian Rankin
May 2013
OP
The peacock's tail as a consequence of sexual selection is also supported by
HereSince1628
May 2013
#21
If You Cannot Test The Validity Of An Explanation, It is An Article Of Faith
The Magistrate
May 2013
#6
Or a guess. But that's an orthogonal question to whether or not it's right. N.T.
Donald Ian Rankin
May 2013
#7
Claiming It Does Explain, Sir, Claims Validity For It, Making It An Article Of Faith
The Magistrate
May 2013
#10
That's not my view, stated or otherwise - was that a deliberate or an accidental misstatement?
Donald Ian Rankin
May 2013
#13
Then This Whole Thing, Sir, Is Not Worth Disturbing the Path Of a Single Electron Over
The Magistrate
May 2013
#14
Well, no. Of course it doesn't, and I didn't say it did. Please read before commenting.
Donald Ian Rankin
May 2013
#57
I'm afraid that's a complete non-sequitur; I think you may have misunderstood.
Donald Ian Rankin
May 2013
#54
"God did it" is not an explanation of anything. It is a suspension of explanation.
Bolo Boffin
May 2013
#11
ID pretends that the Intelligent Designer is the only reasonable explanation. It's not.
DetlefK
May 2013
#18
Against, of course, as is made plain in the OP - try actually reading it.
Donald Ian Rankin
May 2013
#42
Try reading posts instead of guessing what you think they might say. N.T.
Donald Ian Rankin
May 2013
#27
Absolutely, but I think the point is possibly better cast in terms of predictive power.
Donald Ian Rankin
May 2013
#43
Intelligent Design Does NOT automatically mean "God". What part of that simple truth do you not get?
KittyWampus
May 2013
#37
"It therefore had to exist from the very beginning since like begets like."
MattBaggins
May 2013
#48
Almost all of that is nonsense, apart from the last line, which is just comedy.
Donald Ian Rankin
May 2013
#49
A key requirement for a good logical theory is that it not prove too much.
struggle4progress
May 2013
#39