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radicalliberal

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20. I apologize to you for unintentionally causing a misunderstanding.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 07:24 PM
Feb 2012

When I said "your threads," I was addressing all of the members who had responded to your OP. I was referring to all of the threads dealing with the issue of bullying by "jocks." There have been a number of these threads, all of whose OPs were written by members other than yourself. I also had in mind the number of posts submitted in threads whose themes were not limited exclusively to the subject of school athletes. I wasn't saying you had written the OPs of any of these other threads. In fact, as you've said, this is the first time I've seen you post about this issue.

I'm very sympathetic to victims of bullying. What attracted me to DU in the first place were all the anti-bullying threads. Even though I'm in my early sixties, I didn't start posting in online forums until three years ago. I was fascinated to see that those who were or had been bullied in school now had a forum in which to sound off. When I was a kid, no one cared about bullied kids, except maybe their parents. Some bullied kids haven't even gotten any support at home. As far as I know, no one spoke up for bullied kids when I was young.

My only purpose here in this thread was to try to facilitate some understanding between football fans and those guys who hate football because of negative experiences of the sort you experienced. I was sincere when I said both groups are negatively stereotyped. Even though I'm a guy, I've never been a sports fan myself. * gasp * I don't even know how the game of football is played. But I do know a few guys who played football in high school who are nice guys, just as I know of a few who were complete jerks. A former NFL player named Joe Ehrmann is now a minister and a volunteer high-school football coach. He's also a public speaker. He has publicly repudiated machismo and has repeatedly spoken out against bullying. He recently wrote a book about his style of coaching and his coaching philosophy entitled InSideOut Coaching, which I think you would appreciate.

I should have made it clear that by my use of the word "your," I meant all of the members of DU. I was speaking as an outsider. Again, I apologize to you. I wasn't taking sides against you (or anyone else who's willing to be reasonable, for that matter). I apologize for causing you any pain. I feel bad about this.

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I tend to despise jocks, especially paid jocks, but recently I've had to rethink things Zalatix Feb 2012 #1
Greetings, Zalatix! radicalliberal Feb 2012 #15
Playing football does not make one a bully. Why the silly generalizations? bayareamike Feb 2012 #2
actually, playing football does make one a bully. provis99 Feb 2012 #3
Nope. Correlation does not equal causation. bayareamike Feb 2012 #5
since you used the bullshit "correlation does not equal causation" line provis99 Feb 2012 #6
Huh? I'm sorry that you are upset that I have a different opinion than you. Very childish. bayareamike Feb 2012 #8
I won't use the line that causes you to put people on ignore... cherokeeprogressive Feb 2012 #9
And I never played football. Saving Hawaii Feb 2012 #11
Uh, that's one of the most basic premises of SCIENCE. TheWraith Feb 2012 #16
It was a completely valid observation. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2012 #18
We often see things in such a way as to better validate our own anecdotal experiences... LanternWaste Feb 2012 #28
Excellent post! radicalliberal Feb 2012 #29
Perhaps there's another reason why those who were beat up in high school ... radicalliberal Mar 2012 #32
Admittedly, not every jock is a bully, but..... LongTomH Feb 2012 #13
Agreed... It's just a sport chrisa Feb 2012 #24
I don't usu. watch football, but I don't say that out loud. I live in DALLAS, where fb is KING. Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #4
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #7
I guess we have a new challenger for Dumbest Post in DU History. Saving Hawaii Feb 2012 #10
"So why should you be watching the type of guys who bullied you in High School (and maybe college) " Cali_Democrat Feb 2012 #12
So far I have only three posts to my username -- not counting this one, of course -- radicalliberal Feb 2012 #14
Excuse me, you said... LongTomH Feb 2012 #17
I apologize to you for unintentionally causing a misunderstanding. radicalliberal Feb 2012 #20
Poor me kctim Feb 2012 #19
Young people who are continually bullied over an extended period of time ... radicalliberal Feb 2012 #21
This has nothing to do with bullying kctim Feb 2012 #22
Hi! :-) I'm glad that you're being civil and that you're communicating with me. radicalliberal Feb 2012 #23
I also appreciate the civility kctim Feb 2012 #30
It's just a game and people are free to waste their money on just a game. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2012 #25
I guess I'll have to let my son know he has to step up the bullying. Goblinmonger Feb 2012 #26
OP you should worry more about grown men in their 40's talking about their glory days in High School chrisa Feb 2012 #27
Message to trumad: radicalliberal Feb 2012 #31
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