Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
General Discussion
In reply to the discussion: Robert Reich: The Sad Spectacle of Obama’s Super PAC [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)3. Best
response to Reich's piece was in this Daily Kos diary. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/02/08/1062788/-Fmr-Labor-Sec-Obama-Has-Handed-The-Election-Over-To-The-Super-Rich
Phyrric Moral Victory
So Obama takes the moral high ground and eschews the use of SuperPAC money. The tsunami of right wing largesse waiting to be unleashed against him will make the circus that is the Republican primary look like an April shower.
They will crucify him, and he will lose. Then what?
The Corporatist Party (formerly known as the Republican party) controls both houses of Congress, the White House, and the Supreme Court. To keep "The Base" mollified, conservative social legislation that would warm the cockles of of the Taliban's hearts.
For the paymasters, tax and budget provisions that will take the US back to medieval times insofar as the working and middle classes are concerned (you do remember that there is such a thing as the "working class don't you)?
Your poor bleeding liberal hearts will not have time to bleed for the oppressed workers at Foxconn plants in China, for you will either be them or envying them for having jobs.
Robert Reich can take the moral high ground as he's not in the fight. He doesn't need to win. He can pontificate from atop the ivory tower.
This election is going to be old-school Chicago-style politics. That's not something to run from. If one is going to go up against thieves, liars, and crooks then one needs to leave one's copy of the Marquess of Queensbury Rules at home and bust out the brass knuckles and bicycle chains.
We win the White House, The House, and the Senate. We appoint some Supreme Court justices without ideological bias. Then, we repeal Citizen's United with legislation that won't be overturned on appeal. Then we enact campaign finance law with teeth.
We can fight from the back benches. We just can't win much from there.
So, quit whining and get ready to bust some heads because this one's going to be brutal and dirty.
http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1062788/44891461#c18
So Obama takes the moral high ground and eschews the use of SuperPAC money. The tsunami of right wing largesse waiting to be unleashed against him will make the circus that is the Republican primary look like an April shower.
They will crucify him, and he will lose. Then what?
The Corporatist Party (formerly known as the Republican party) controls both houses of Congress, the White House, and the Supreme Court. To keep "The Base" mollified, conservative social legislation that would warm the cockles of of the Taliban's hearts.
For the paymasters, tax and budget provisions that will take the US back to medieval times insofar as the working and middle classes are concerned (you do remember that there is such a thing as the "working class don't you)?
Your poor bleeding liberal hearts will not have time to bleed for the oppressed workers at Foxconn plants in China, for you will either be them or envying them for having jobs.
Robert Reich can take the moral high ground as he's not in the fight. He doesn't need to win. He can pontificate from atop the ivory tower.
This election is going to be old-school Chicago-style politics. That's not something to run from. If one is going to go up against thieves, liars, and crooks then one needs to leave one's copy of the Marquess of Queensbury Rules at home and bust out the brass knuckles and bicycle chains.
We win the White House, The House, and the Senate. We appoint some Supreme Court justices without ideological bias. Then, we repeal Citizen's United with legislation that won't be overturned on appeal. Then we enact campaign finance law with teeth.
We can fight from the back benches. We just can't win much from there.
So, quit whining and get ready to bust some heads because this one's going to be brutal and dirty.
http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1062788/44891461#c18
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
Recommendations
0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):
71 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
"But would refusing to be corrupted this way really amount to unilateral disarmament?" Yes. Duh.
TheWraith
Feb 2012
#4
Dramatic much? Robert Reich's fortune telling ability aside, refusing to take PAC money when
renie408
Feb 2012
#11
great! we can spend our money on liberal/progressive candidates lower down ballot instead of O nt
msongs
Feb 2012
#12
the koch brothers will spend their fortunes to destroy Obama, he'd be a fool not to have an s/pac
spanone
Feb 2012
#13
Yes ... Obama should disarm himself so that after GOP Super PACs win the election ...
JoePhilly
Feb 2012
#19
Sorry guy, Presidential elections are life and death decisions anymore.
TwilightGardener
Feb 2012
#22
I agree, the oposite is a piss poor excuse to lose to the bastards who are in the GOP now
uponit7771
Feb 2012
#38
No, they are a great Democratic weapon now! They are good now, Obama said so.
Dragonfli
Feb 2012
#62
What good does it do to stand on principle when the other guy is standing on...
renie408
Feb 2012
#59