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60. In individual instances, yes there was some monitoring
Fri May 17, 2013, 05:25 PM
May 2013

though it was discouraged by the national DHS since OWS was a nonviolent expression of 1st amendment rights.

In cases where there was talk of closing down ports, one would be surprised if they weren't paying attention.

Here's where common sense would come in:

1) Huge national conspiracy involving multiple federal agencies as well as dozens of local ones, with zero testimony or documents showing that conspiracy? Human experience tells us no conspiracy can be that big and remain a secret--someone will blab, someone will whistleblow, etc.

2) Obama had nothing to gain from violently suppressing OWS. Doing so would have risked destroying his presidency. So long as Obama is the milquetoast centrist he's generally perceived as, and not the comic book villain some on the extreme left and right view him as, it's utterly nonsensical to think he'd have done so.



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Yes,and Janet Napolitano was as guilty as they come for this shit. Wellstone ruled May 2013 #1
I'll bet $100 donation to DU you're talking our geek tragedy May 2013 #18
No, we know for a fact that the attempt to destroy this Social Justice movement was coordinated at a sabrina 1 May 2013 #43
"we know for a fact . . . was coordinated at the federal level" geek tragedy May 2013 #44
Tell it to the government. I haven't seen them deny it since the FOIA requests were finally obtained sabrina 1 May 2013 #47
The government's already denied it. geek tragedy May 2013 #50
True. Governments deny lots of things. Iran-Contra comes to mind immediately. Zorra May 2013 #59
In individual instances, yes there was some monitoring geek tragedy May 2013 #60
If you search DU it's easy to find my own post regarding Napolitano, LAPD, and DHS coming together Fire Walk With Me May 2013 #37
Thanks, seems someone is very far behind on actual information that has confirmed the suspicions sabrina 1 May 2013 #48
K&R G_j May 2013 #2
Iconic kyeshinka May 2013 #3
Lost his $100K+ job not long thereafter, home was later foreclosed upon. Fire Walk With Me May 2013 #13
And do you have any updates on the 'internal' police investigation into the attempted murder by sabrina 1 May 2013 #49
Scott Olsen's attorney has named the cop believed responsible for the near-fatal volley. Fire Walk With Me May 2013 #61
Big K&R. Just Sayin'. nt silvershadow May 2013 #4
But they're not Republicans. GeorgeGist May 2013 #5
These were demonstrations by not wealthy people, so not popular now. Half-Century Man May 2013 #6
K&R zeemike May 2013 #7
Yeah but they're not so popular and widespread and truly grassroots like the tea party! redqueen May 2013 #8
Yes...not a peep more about it.... KoKo May 2013 #9
Damn right I do... RoccoR5955 May 2013 #10
Yeah, but unfortunately Dems weren't being very vocal about it either. cui bono May 2013 #19
They are all beholden to corporations... RoccoR5955 May 2013 #29
Du rec. Nt xchrom May 2013 #11
K&R Teamster Jeff May 2013 #12
Obviously, the IRS should have used pepper spray. hay rick May 2013 #14
Because the other side is so fucking drunk with power that it doesn't matter what we do. Initech May 2013 #15
No proof DHS coordinated anything--a loony-tunes conspiracy theory geek tragedy May 2013 #16
It appears that you have several links of FOIA information above to refute. Dragonfli May 2013 #22
I've read all of those FOIA documents, and not a single damn page has geek tragedy May 2013 #23
I am disappointed, I thought it would be easy for you, you didn't address a single thing. Dragonfli May 2013 #25
The fact of the matter stands that no one geek tragedy May 2013 #27
Start with these, I can produce ten times as many, finish what's on your plate here first. Dragonfli May 2013 #28
Slam LiberalLovinLug May 2013 #41
Amazingly enough, your word salad didn't include geek tragedy May 2013 #45
A simple google search of "FBI Occupy movement" shows NYT, Guardian, CNN, cui bono May 2013 #33
No, I'm saying there's no evidence of a federally orchestrated geek tragedy May 2013 #46
No, just because you all claim something is proof geek tragedy May 2013 #53
In case you want proof, read this: geek tragedy May 2013 #57
Anything to say to refute the documentation supplied directly to you above by Fire? I didn't see sabrina 1 May 2013 #51
Nothing she posted is evidence of a federal crackdown. geek tragedy May 2013 #52
Lol, I didn't think you would even try to refute HIS comment. sabrina 1 May 2013 #54
You really need to stop outside your echo chamber. geek tragedy May 2013 #56
It convinced me we indeed live in a plutocracy. Rex May 2013 #17
I think you were correct with both assessments, we live in a plutocratic Idiocracy /nt Dragonfli May 2013 #21
Thats because the 1%ers are idiots n2doc May 2013 #35
Often CR groups are formed to protect the civil liberties of specific targeted groups, Dragonfli May 2013 #20
Remember when they destroyed ACORN and Congress was a part of it? MattBaggins May 2013 #24
As I recall a few Democrats threw themselves on swords trying to protect ACORN! Dragonfli May 2013 #26
They threw it overboard without checking to see if there was any truth to the allegations. East Coast Pirate May 2013 #34
. blkmusclmachine May 2013 #30
Oh, "the govt. gave a shit." dotymed May 2013 #31
DU's trolls trashed OWS right away RandiFan1290 May 2013 #32
+1 Zorra May 2013 #55
People gave a shit at least on DU treestar May 2013 #36
K & R !!! WillyT May 2013 #38
K & R ctsnowman May 2013 #39
Occupiers Prevail Over Infiltrators, Unconstitutional Ordinances, Vindictive DAs G_j May 2013 #40
Thank you! nt Fantastic Anarchist May 2013 #42
Yes, I do as well. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #58
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