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In reply to the discussion: OCOTILLO WIND TURBINE THROWS OFF MULTI-TON BLADE, PROMPTING WORLD-WIDE SHUT DOWN OF SIMILAR TURBINES [View all]byeya
(2,842 posts)17. If Siemens is shutting down all wind turbines of this model they make, it's
a big deal because Germany is well on its way towards weaning itself from fossil and nuke energy and is depending on wind for part of its energy mix.
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OCOTILLO WIND TURBINE THROWS OFF MULTI-TON BLADE, PROMPTING WORLD-WIDE SHUT DOWN OF SIMILAR TURBINES [View all]
nadinbrzezinski
May 2013
OP
But that's how the source did it. Is that an exception to the rule about yelling with caps?
freshwest
May 2013
#317
Hummm... One day interviewing the head of dog-catching in some small Florida city
bluestate10
May 2013
#114
What is the purpose of this post? Are you doubting the accuracy of the OP? If so, get some
rhett o rick
May 2013
#122
Yeah, I really didn't grock how big those blades are until I was alongside one on the freeway.
MindPilot
May 2013
#14
Back on the old DU I put up a thread of my encounter with a couple of those blades....
A HERETIC I AM
May 2013
#76
Off-topic, I remember thinking Little America was the coolest place on earth when I was little
Codeine
May 2013
#78
These are 173 feet long, the newer generation of larger turbines. Each weighs about 11 tons.
Liberty Belle
May 2013
#141
I've only seen them from a distance when they looked in proportion to the towers themselves.
freshwest
May 2013
#318
So seems like you have moved on from the turbines/ infrasound causing cancer to
maddezmom
May 2013
#9
They've amortized the cost of installing the turbines by using them to fling insecticide??
winter is coming
May 2013
#28
Stray voltage from wind turbines has been measured at 1,000 times where there's a cancer cluster
Liberty Belle
May 2013
#143
And what is considered normal in a rural area? It could be 1,000 times greater and still not
winter is coming
May 2013
#158
At this point, it's only suspected, so saying they have one is premature.
winter is coming
May 2013
#177
I never claimed Tay Sachs was cancer. And yes, it's rare, but the risk
winter is coming
May 2013
#198
Anyone who thinks being near high voltage causes cancer needs to not lecture on learning facts. n/t
Ian David
May 2013
#153
It's like this... you put out a few capacitors, and the voltage follows you home. n/t
winter is coming
May 2013
#164
This photo shows how close those turbines are too homes - too closer for comfort if a blade fell
Liberty Belle
May 2013
#163
I know you've never been there, but those turbines are WAY OFF in the distance.
NYC_SKP
May 2013
#207
Upon scanning her articles, there's definitely and agenda or bias against energy projects.
NYC_SKP
May 2013
#214
They are shut down here, and elsewhere until they inspect all the blades.
Liberty Belle
May 2013
#144
I think this turbine farm is on land owned by US citizens and managed by the Bureau
byeya
May 2013
#19
And, you said people change their minds when hosting turbines which is not the case here.
byeya
May 2013
#24
Most of the people making money are absentee landlords, making their neighbors sick for profit.
Liberty Belle
May 2013
#154
Those neighbors are not sick. Their illnesses are fabrications of their imagination.
Gravitycollapse
May 2013
#167
"Can Expectations Produce Symptoms From Infrasound Associated With Wind Turbines?"
winter is coming
May 2013
#168
How sad that you think you can ridicule a DU poster. This is not jr. high. nm
rhett o rick
May 2013
#125
60% of Germany's energy comes from solar, nearly all on roofs and parking lots.
Liberty Belle
May 2013
#142
Got some links for that? Which "German energy expert"? Why/where was he speaking?
winter is coming
May 2013
#149
Actually, she is partially correct - Germany has produced 50% of its power from solar
jpak
May 2013
#295
Yes, I know that Germany makes far better use of solar power than we do.
winter is coming
May 2013
#297
Bullshit. 5% of german electricity comes from solar; 7% from wind
muriel_volestrangler
May 2013
#166
Read a little more please. Solar power is dominant during the day, providing up to 50 percent
WCLinolVir
May 2013
#241
No, you are wrong and Muriel is correct. For Germany, it's about 3% of the total elec. mix.
NYC_SKP
May 2013
#245
The statement was not "there has been some point at which solar once provided 50%
muriel_volestrangler
May 2013
#259
*Wrong!* OMG, this is ignorance. Please. Are you really the editor at East County Magazine?
NYC_SKP
May 2013
#217
There is no evidence that infrasound from wind turbines has ill effects on human beings.
Gravitycollapse
May 2013
#34
Maybe this emerging story should emerge in the direction of explaining
winter is coming
May 2013
#64
Link to reputable source showing they are "having the same kind of medical issues" as I would like
uppityperson
May 2013
#95
I think the main point is that if all Siemens wind turbines in Germany are being taken off
byeya
May 2013
#39
No, just turbines that use that specific blade design. New design. Probably a small number.
NYC_SKP
May 2013
#218
How about manufacturing defects? This shouldn't have happened. Infrastructure should last for years.
freshwest
May 2013
#319
We are contacting you and asking to please change to not all caps. It is easy to do, please.
uppityperson
May 2013
#94
Ahh the rationalization. She deserves to be bullied. Her post was ridiculous therefore she deserves
rhett o rick
May 2013
#127
LOL. I was already composing a response to one of your "this isn't junior high" posts, so
winter is coming
May 2013
#128
Sorry but I think your rationalization for ridiculing a DU poster is weak.
rhett o rick
May 2013
#136
Speaking of strawmen, I have no problem with asking for validation of claims.
rhett o rick
May 2013
#138
"Is the poster's behavior so bad that it justifies the ridicule and mocking?"
winter is coming
May 2013
#139
I find it sad that people feel the need to make bullying Nadin a hobby. I am all for
hrmjustin
May 2013
#225
She said that wind turbines give you cancer. That's the kind of shit they medicate you over.
Gravitycollapse
May 2013
#226
Look I don't always agree with her but people here make it a sport to go after her.
hrmjustin
May 2013
#228
I am not talking about the Op or her views. I am talking about the swarm that lives to
hrmjustin
May 2013
#231
As I said I don't always agree with her, but there are those here who live to ridicule her.
hrmjustin
May 2013
#233
I have had a different experience with some of the folk responding with derision to the post.
IdaBriggs
May 2013
#279
Let's talk about your content shall we? You do not, I believe have a degree in the
WCLinolVir
May 2013
#188
Nice ambiguity but don't attribute remarks to me that I have not made. I never asked for, nor
WCLinolVir
May 2013
#238
There are still paid shills crusading about the lack of evidence for climate change.
winter is coming
May 2013
#240
Note that the claim from Liberty Belle, Nadin's colleague and the author of some of the articles
muriel_volestrangler
May 2013
#261
your almost 300 reply thread wasn't enough? Who gets to "hug a turbine" this time around
sad-cafe
May 2013
#35
In my best FDR voice..."Yesterday, May 16, 2013 - a date which will live in infamy....
Junkdrawer
May 2013
#40
The idea that an 11 ton blade from a turbine could fly for a mile is absurd.
Gravitycollapse
May 2013
#43
Scotland advises a two kilometer separation from housing because of the failures large wind turbines
byeya
May 2013
#54
Parts of a blade that failed traveled a mile. That, in part, is why nations are establishing a 2km
byeya
May 2013
#273
In Kansas. During a tornado. What else traveled a mile or more during that tornado? n/t
winter is coming
May 2013
#278
DU CELEB HURLS POSTS INTO MEMORY HOLE, PROMPTING THREAD-WIDE SHUTDOWN OF SNARK nt
Codeine
May 2013
#106
Boulevard's Planning Group Chair has testified that a blade flew over 3/4 of a mile here in the past
Liberty Belle
May 2013
#155
What is a Planning Group Chair? How does one become one? Is it you? n/t
winter is coming
May 2013
#165
don't let the dweebs get you down, nadin. nobody is forcing them to read your posts :-) nt
msongs
May 2013
#57
So, by dropping a turbine blade on a jeep trail, "they" have cleverly discouraged off-roading??
winter is coming
May 2013
#82
You did not state it directly but intimated it on the other thread over a half dozen times
maddezmom
May 2013
#97
LOL. No doubt, but I was pointing out a typo that made the sentence a bit strange. n/t
winter is coming
May 2013
#113
It appears to me that you have posted a number of posts in this thread attempting to disparage the
rhett o rick
May 2013
#123
Bullshit. She posted the OP and made claims throughout this thread that she will not back up.
maddezmom
May 2013
#131
She presents herself as a journalist. She makes claims about wind farms causing cancer clusters.
maddezmom
May 2013
#134
Thank you for stating the obvious. A mature approach to discussion. It's so easy to ignore
sabrina 1
May 2013
#292
They CAN cause cancer but not from the noise - from the stray voltage. 1,000 times normal
Liberty Belle
May 2013
#147
Wow, that stray voltage must be incredibly damaging! Odd that it's only now being mentioned. n/t
winter is coming
May 2013
#150
You don't even know what stray voltage is. There's zero evidence that stray voltage causes cancer.
Gravitycollapse
May 2013
#169
Here's how you can know you're being fed bullshit, even without understanding the physics
jeff47
May 2013
#222
Volts-voltage, amps, amperage. Are you still following?? Watts-wattage. There is a test.
WCLinolVir
May 2013
#247
No, no, the bass-out-of-human-hearing-range vibrations caused by big moving blades attached to
patrice
May 2013
#105
"More turbines are proposed in San Diego that would be only 500 feet from roads"
winter is coming
May 2013
#156
Wow! What an amazing piece!! Yeah, have you ever seen one of those National Geographic
patrice
May 2013
#110
Nadin can't kick this thread, she got locked out of her own thread on Friday
Brother Buzz
May 2013
#196
Has the East County Magazine ever disclosed its inherent conflict of interest wrt Wind Power?...
SidDithers
May 2013
#186
What is truly sad is that "activism" like this is likely to impede the efforts of people
winter is coming
May 2013
#271
The jury sides with the bully crowd. This poster is considered fair game. Shame on them all. nm
rhett o rick
May 2013
#286
Hang in there Nadin. Dont let the bastards get you down. It's not their fault.
rhett o rick
May 2013
#287