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Honeycombe8

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1. Because they weren't targeting "groups that might not be 503(c) orgs," which is

Sat May 18, 2013, 07:45 AM

May 2013

what they are charged to do. They were targeting conservative or tea party groups.....groups of a particular leaning. Which is apparently against the law. It's that simple.

Even if it were legal, from a purely PR point of view, how incredibly stupid that was. That handed conservatives a reason to hate and distrust Democratic administrations even more. This gives them so-called proof of corruption.

There was a way to do this w/o saying outright that's what they were targeting. If I were sitting in a meeting where we discussed doing that, I would've spoken up immediately, pointing out the PR issue and suggesting, instead, to go about it another way.

Besides, it doesn't matter what the facts are. From a purely PR point of view, the talking points are already out there, that's all that most people will ever know about this issue, the damage has been done. A trifecta.

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Why is everyone "outraged"?? [View all] kentuck May 2013 OP

Because they weren't targeting "groups that might not be 503(c) orgs," which is Honeycombe8 May 2013 #1

+1, n/t RKP5637 May 2013 #2

But who made the decision to target them? CJCRANE May 2013 #3

"That handed conservatives a reason to hate and distrust Democratic administrations..." kentuck May 2013 #4

Were they targeting conservative groups or Squinch May 2013 #5

You are seeing this correctly. RC May 2013 #35

Nailed. It. - Since 1959, over 50 years of these exemptions. This is a tax-exempt food fight. nt patrice May 2013 #58

The latter nxylas May 2013 #78

That tells us all we need to know, doesn't it? What a crock this whole thing is! Squinch May 2013 #80

I'm beginning to agree with you. kentuck May 2013 #85

Agree. hay rick May 2013 #87

This has been debunked. But then, I guess it's almost Sunday. graham4anything May 2013 #10

Doesn't matter. The story is already spread. Most people won't read any further about it. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #19

This administration has been terrible at informing the public on things and responding timely and st DonCoquixote May 2013 #75

Not true. Even with the ACA, the admin. didn't get out to sell it. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #84

Your response has a serious flaw though. John2 May 2013 #13

"These organizations"? What organizations? Honeycombe8 May 2013 #22

I don't have to provide you a link to this letter, John2 May 2013 #41

It seems that all three of the current "scandals" were initiated by GOP actions. csziggy May 2013 #65

sec 527 is the political organization tax-exempt designation, not 501c3 noiretextatique May 2013 #70

But even if that were so... kentuck May 2013 #71

agreed...and that's precisely why the IRS is investigating noiretextatique May 2013 #89

Actually, if you want a tax exemption for your donations and include the words, JDPriestly May 2013 #72

Nail on head LittleBlue May 2013 #77

Excellent post malaise May 2013 #6

Yeah, you John2 May 2013 #20

It made me happy! femmocrat May 2013 #7

This has all been debunked. But then, I guess it's Saturday. graham4anything May 2013 #8

Do you have any links?? kentuck May 2013 #9

Not playing your circular means something other than it says games.Have a great Saturday. graham4anything May 2013 #11

What are you talking about? femmocrat May 2013 #12

One Link I Just Read rbrnmw May 2013 #15

interesting G_j May 2013 #16

Thank you! That is an excellent link that explains things very well. femmocrat May 2013 #39

Yep. I think that is probably the case? BOLO... Be On The Lookout kentuck May 2013 #43

As a person who has John2 May 2013 #50

Indeed, some have been at work all week. graham4anything May 2013 #18

How convenient... Pelican May 2013 #54

Here you go: Chathamization May 2013 #49

what has been debunked? G_j May 2013 #14

Because we are truly living in bizarro world tularetom May 2013 #17

It is that compromise John2 May 2013 #25

It seems to me they were doing their jobs. Autumn May 2013 #21

Well..at least it's "bi-partisan." KoKo May 2013 #23

Meanwhile the federal budget limbo is hurting the American People rbrnmw May 2013 #24

I'm not impressed John2 May 2013 #26

This is outrageous Newest Reality May 2013 #27

I read a recent article John2 May 2013 #29

why? because the Rs expected Pres. O to defend the IRS and he didn't. Bipartisan outrage :) Sunlei May 2013 #28

He's a wise President because he came out near the beginning, like an outraged Republican? RC May 2013 #40

I meant it was wise to remove the Rs target and that target is always Pres. O. Sunlei May 2013 #45

I agree kentuck. In fact I have experience at a 501c3 and reporting underpants May 2013 #30

Thanks underpants! kentuck May 2013 #44

Among the allegations Seeking Serenity May 2013 #31

Your post assumes equal scrutiny is a necessity. kentuck May 2013 #34

"These groups did not deserve "normal" scrutiny." Seeking Serenity May 2013 #37

But the problem is not that they had a "conservative" sounding name. kentuck May 2013 #46

How do you declare intent to deceive before you even look at an application? TheKentuckian May 2013 #61

Perhaps bad wording on my part...? kentuck May 2013 #66

I don't think they do anything for the public good at all, in fact I think they are a black hole TheKentuckian May 2013 #86

They were not targeted because they were Right Wing groups KoKo May 2013 #47

Except that the Treasury Department's Seeking Serenity May 2013 #52

I bet the apps are treated equally, but once the IRS flags an error or has a question..the app gets Sunlei May 2013 #51

Outrage TNNurse May 2013 #32

Agree..and could be they found Koch Brothers or other "outside money" involved KoKo May 2013 #48

Outrage? abelenkpe May 2013 #33

Outraged that the Kochs and others have created new tax havens that influence elections. mountain grammy May 2013 #36

Could not agree more. JEB May 2013 #60

every person or group claiming tax exempt status should be examined. tomp May 2013 #38

Good point. Chathamization May 2013 #59

The problem... Pelican May 2013 #63

What if there are 20 times more conservative groups than liberal groups?? kentuck May 2013 #67

not quite sure what you're asking. tomp May 2013 #83

Yes, especially those whose group name contains the word "Party". GoCubsGo May 2013 #81

Debunked? Purplehazed May 2013 #42

Simple ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2013 #53

Yeah, the Right John2 May 2013 #57

I'm not "outraged" at the IRS scrutinizing these 501(c)4 org... amerciti001 May 2013 #55

Not only that They_Live May 2013 #73

I am not outraged at all Joey Liberal May 2013 #56

Koch brothers Life Long Dem May 2013 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author limpyhobbler May 2013 #64

I'm outraged that Republican obstruction of the lawful functioning of crucial governmental indepat May 2013 #68

Bingo! kentuck May 2013 #69

I'm outraged at your lack of outrage... awoke_in_2003 May 2013 #74

Because, on all sides DonCoquixote May 2013 #76

Because fairness is at least as much perception as reality. MrModerate May 2013 #79

Kick and Rec. n/t Smarmie Doofus May 2013 #82

I agree Proud Liberal Dem May 2013 #88