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In reply to the discussion: So, I guess you only want to talk to people who agree with you [View all]graham4anything
(11,464 posts)if that statement was to have a meaning (and the following opinion piece is not to you specific but in general to anyone)
then why would anyone put down a democratic president on a democratic site when the only outcome one will get in change from that would be JEB BUSH???
if one says
everyone hated Bush.
Well, first off, does one mean Bush the person, Bush the father(41), Bush 43, Jeb Bush
or their politics?
And well, "everyone hated Bush".
Well, from outward appearances-let's say it applies to Bush the political Bush
Cheney hated W but does not hate 41 or Jeb
Rand hates W but does not hate 41 or Jeb
Max Baucus does not like W
Elizabeth warren does not like W but she voted for Reagan/Bush earlier in her 80s political life
Barack Obama does not like W
Hillary and Bill does not like W
Mitt Romney does not like W
John McCain does not like W
so it is a statistically NOT viable comment on anything BUT
those people do not like W and 76% of the people do NOT like W
yet, President Obama is supported by 95%plus of the democratic party
and more than 1/2 the country heavily favors him
President45tobe Hillary Clinton is loved by even more than that.
when the exact corrolation of not liking the president and Hillary will directly lead to
President Bush well, if everyone did not like President Bush, why are some directly working against President Obama 24/7/365 from day one or day 100 or the 5th year, to directly bring back President Bush? And ironic enough- the new President Bush is loved by Dick Cheney himself.
So much so, that to spit in people's faces, the Bush's may just make Cheney the SOS or Chief of staff, or, for all we know, Jeb might say hey Dick, wanna be my VP? and nominate him for VP.
In a battle of idealogical titans as it looks to be, what better way to put everything on the table than that?
Election season? Well, Jeb is running
IMHO it is election season right now. (though I ain't whining about it.)
So most did not like W Bush. I did not like even more 41Bush and Jeb Bush.
However, the people who did not like Bush, one knows, a great many of them are indeed
libertarians NOT democratic supporters.
So, just because they did not like Bush, does not mean they liked one thing I like or support
And btw, this site, accordingly at election time-does NOT differentiate a democratic candidate.
It supports ALL democratic candidates because those in the know know the worst democratic candidate is far better than the office holding republican candidate in 2013.
And the furthest left democratic candidates ALWAYS vote 100% with President Obama when their vote is the tie breaker- ala Bernie Sanders and Dennis Kucinich.
For all those lovers of Dennis Kucinich, we treasure that his vote was the deciding vote on Health Care, and that Bernie Sanders was there as a 60th every single time it was needed.
While in office, Dennis was NOT a stab in the back. Dennis had the back.
(Now that he is a profit seeking out of office, he is doing what every other person in the media and altmedia does, and that is make $$$ off his whines and it is it seems quite profitable in the 100% of the media alt/regular way of making $$$ and bringing the bacon to their plate.
Kudos to Dennis for being a player in that system. It is his American right.
How do you think Ralph Nader spent his whole life doing absolutely not one day of work
and yet has assets of the 1%?
Whine vineyards all seem to be profitable.
Al Gore once said (and I myself cannot believe the level of hate for Al Gore on both of the two sides(there are only 2 sides) of the street (where some go round and run smack dab into each other(the 20% as I call them) that some arguments have NO second side to them.
As I am going to see the second Star Trek reboot today, it reminds me that it makes
ZERO Spock logic sense to Hate Bush and then tear down Obama/Clinton to bring back Bush.
It is just not logical.
logic dictates 80-20.
People say it can't happen.
The committe that brings candidates for judgeships to the whole floor
for a vote just voted 18 to 0. Don't say 80-20 is not possible.
as Ted Kennedy said "The Dream lives On". (though I have been floored that some also hated Ted Kennedy and John Lennon, go figure that one.)I know the Bush family did.
Never thought anyone else did.