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In reply to the discussion: The child saw the handgun in the parents’ bedroom and put it in his mouth, where it went off. [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)55. Yep. Case in point after we read all these stories, first one I ever read charged with a crime:
He Has A Name: 3-Year-Old Jadarrius Speights Shoots & Kills Himself With Uncle's Gun

...Jadarrius shot himself and now, Walker...is being charged with culpable negligence, which is a third degree felony.
His Uncle, 29-year-old Jeffrey Walker, left the gun in the room he shared with the toddler, where he found it in a backpack. Walker purchased the gun at a gun shop in the Tampa Bay area and also had a concealed weapons permit.
Tragically, the child's parents, 21-year-old Jasmine Bell and 22-year-old Trentin Speights, were in their bedroom at the time of the shooting...
http://globalgrind.com/news/3-year-old-jadarrius-speights-shoots-kills-himself-uncles-gun-tampa-photos
This was a permitted gun. Not saying he should not be charged, but the application of these laws seems uneven given so many are not charged. That may mean that the law is going to take a harder look at these deaths, which seem to be happening every day now.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014477845#post89
I don't see any difference in this case, and this Uncle appeared to have done everything right, including keeping it out of sight, except the gun was loaded.
Walker was a law-abiding gun owner, did it all the right way, even had a CCW. But it wasn't called an accident, was it?
My conclusion is that just being 'blah' in the USA carries an inherently unjust penalty.

...Jadarrius shot himself and now, Walker...is being charged with culpable negligence, which is a third degree felony.
His Uncle, 29-year-old Jeffrey Walker, left the gun in the room he shared with the toddler, where he found it in a backpack. Walker purchased the gun at a gun shop in the Tampa Bay area and also had a concealed weapons permit.
Tragically, the child's parents, 21-year-old Jasmine Bell and 22-year-old Trentin Speights, were in their bedroom at the time of the shooting...
http://globalgrind.com/news/3-year-old-jadarrius-speights-shoots-kills-himself-uncles-gun-tampa-photos
This was a permitted gun. Not saying he should not be charged, but the application of these laws seems uneven given so many are not charged. That may mean that the law is going to take a harder look at these deaths, which seem to be happening every day now.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014477845#post89
I don't see any difference in this case, and this Uncle appeared to have done everything right, including keeping it out of sight, except the gun was loaded.
Walker was a law-abiding gun owner, did it all the right way, even had a CCW. But it wasn't called an accident, was it?
My conclusion is that just being 'blah' in the USA carries an inherently unjust penalty.
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The child saw the handgun in the parents’ bedroom and put it in his mouth, where it went off. [View all]
Robb
May 2013
OP
more gundamentalists. they pop up like weeds when there is a gun thread.
Nanjing to Seoul
May 2013
#145
Gundamentalist. Like Fundamentalist, only they worship their guns more than human life
Nanjing to Seoul
May 2013
#150
Yes and no. More than a few successfull suicides are failed cries for help.
TheMadMonk
May 2013
#109
At what point would you support restrictions on your guns? How about these guys' guns?
Hoyt
May 2013
#29
He said he "had several people pull guns on" him? Were they cops? At one time he said, that
AnotherMcIntosh
May 2013
#80
Link that please. But if ONE doesn't matter, then neither does 30K, which is what the NRA "thinks".
patrice
May 2013
#69
They will TRY with pills or a knife and fail many times. A gun is almost always 100% fatal. n-t
Logical
May 2013
#93
Nope. Even if secured, so long as you can access it, it increases your chance of dying.
SunSeeker
May 2013
#67
Saving the sacred gun from harm, it must fulfill its mission. As far as the child goes, mothers now
freshwest
May 2013
#11
There is something seriously wrong with all of this. That mom thinks it's hilarious. No matter how
freshwest
May 2013
#19
People treat guns like toys, or a religious relic. Gun worship is the fastest growing religion now.
freshwest
May 2013
#73
Make them black people with turbans and suddenly the gunnies get worried, though...
Scootaloo
May 2013
#103
Yep. Case in point after we read all these stories, first one I ever read charged with a crime:
freshwest
May 2013
#55
The price we pay so that folks like the poster just above your post can fondle their guns
Hoyt
May 2013
#51
It took a civil war to make that happen, you know. Most of the same crowd that refuse gun control:
freshwest
May 2013
#76
The thrice repeated phrase in the OP 'expected to survive,' doesn't prove much.
freshwest
May 2013
#108
well, the nuts have (even here) likened their hiding of arms to hiding Poles from Nazis
MisterP
May 2013
#66
It's all the toddler's fault that he didn't follow the advice given him in
kestrel91316
May 2013
#91
Guess the rights of guns are as sacrosanct to North Carolina legislators as gun-owner rights
indepat
May 2013
#119
What were the parents thinking, leaving a gun where a 2 year old could get it?
liberal N proud
May 2013
#126
Absolutely. The country and their children sure as hell don't need their kind of parental care. nt
valerief
May 2013
#134