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85. "If someone wants to end their life, they're going to find a way to do so"

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Sun May 19, 2013, 01:56 PM

May 2013

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The child saw the handgun in the parents’ bedroom and put it in his mouth, where it went off. [View all] Robb May 2013 OP

More of those "responsible gun owners" I keep hearing about. JaneyVee May 2013 #1

If they were any more responsible it would be a crime! Roland99 May 2013 #5

But gopiscrap May 2013 #152

I'm speechless. nt MannyGoldstein May 2013 #2

So's the child. alphafemale May 2013 #18

good grief treestar May 2013 #3

WHAT!? how DARE you zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #13

Or "Doomsday Preppers". Lots of Ilsa May 2013 #16

what's funny to me about that is zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #22

I know someone big-time into these extreme scenarios. Ilsa May 2013 #45

Can't find the story right now, premium May 2013 #49

now that is an OOPS! moment! zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #78

sounds like she is a pro at it zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #54

God forbid they should have to be timdog44 May 2013 #77

"a very tragic accident" . ? . annabanana May 2013 #4

+1 nt historylovr May 2013 #38

+1 Union Scribe May 2013 #63

How many more of Rebl May 2013 #142

Horrifying etherealtruth May 2013 #6

nothing accidental about this incident. KG May 2013 #7

there are no responsible gun owners. bowens43 May 2013 #8

Bullshit, premium May 2013 #15

Yea, suicides don't count. gtar100 May 2013 #21

Did I say that? premium May 2013 #23

Yes, the implication is there. gtar100 May 2013 #31

Wow. premium May 2013 #34

more gundamentalists. they pop up like weeds when there is a gun thread. Nanjing to Seoul May 2013 #145

I see what you did there, premium May 2013 #149

Gundamentalist. Like Fundamentalist, only they worship their guns more than human life Nanjing to Seoul May 2013 #150

I've got to disagree Sgent May 2013 #98

Yes and no. More than a few successfull suicides are failed cries for help. TheMadMonk May 2013 #109

Fair enough, premium May 2013 #135

Carbon dioxide poisoning? Thor_MN May 2013 #144

Whooops, premium May 2013 #148

Maybe you should make suicides illegal then. dkf May 2013 #32

Not me. I was being facetious. gtar100 May 2013 #33

Yeah me too. dkf May 2013 #36

At what point would you support restrictions on your guns? How about these guys' guns? Hoyt May 2013 #29

Stale Hoyt, stale. premium May 2013 #30

Feel free to post of photo of you posing with your guns. n/t Hoyt May 2013 #35

Wow Hoyt, premium May 2013 #41

He said he "had several people pull guns on" him? Were they cops? At one time he said, that AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #80

He never clarifies that, premium May 2013 #81

Link that please. But if ONE doesn't matter, then neither does 30K, which is what the NRA "thinks". patrice May 2013 #69

Wow, if you really think suicides would not go down if guns were not... Logical May 2013 #79

Wow. I don't believe I said that. premium May 2013 #82

"If someone wants to end their life, they're going to find a way to do so" Logical May 2013 #85

That's right, premium May 2013 #86

They will TRY with pills or a knife and fail many times. A gun is almost always 100% fatal. n-t Logical May 2013 #93

Yeah, but nowhere did I say that suicides wouldn't decrease premium May 2013 #94

All gun owners are responsible... madinmaryland May 2013 #117

Eve;ryone is responsible premium May 2013 #124

"Responsible gun owners" is an oxymoron. Apophis May 2013 #39

Why is that an oxymoron? premium May 2013 #42

Math and logic are not strong points for some folks... Pelican May 2013 #62

Yes, "some folks" just refuse to acknowledge the math... SunSeeker May 2013 #70

Maybe just a moron? morningfog May 2013 #127

If you're talking about whoever left the gun unsecured, premium May 2013 #128

That's just stupid. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #50

Keeping a gun in your home is stupid. nt SunSeeker May 2013 #60

Only if it's not properly secured, premium May 2013 #65

Nope. Even if secured, so long as you can access it, it increases your chance of dying. SunSeeker May 2013 #67

+1 SunSeeker May 2013 #58

Lock up one or both of the parents. Forever. NYC_SKP May 2013 #9

should get jail time Duckhunter935 May 2013 #10

Saving the sacred gun from harm, it must fulfill its mission. As far as the child goes, mothers now freshwest May 2013 #11

If seeing her child do that doesn't Ilsa May 2013 #17

There is something seriously wrong with all of this. That mom thinks it's hilarious. No matter how freshwest May 2013 #19

Stupid beyond words. premium May 2013 #37

People treat guns like toys, or a religious relic. Gun worship is the fastest growing religion now. freshwest May 2013 #73

Looks like photos from Somalia rightsideout May 2013 #101

Make them black people with turbans and suddenly the gunnies get worried, though... Scootaloo May 2013 #103

Oh, I so wish I could rec this single reply! Amimnoch May 2013 #125

Interesting. The foundation of U.S. gun control laws is racism Eleanors38 May 2013 #130

Not so interesting. Paladin May 2013 #136

Where I shoot, men in turbans sometimes shoot as well. Eleanors38 May 2013 #143

That child should be removed from that home. Zoeisright May 2013 #40

"This was a very tragic accident." baldguy May 2013 #12

This was no accident, premium May 2013 #14

If it was bleach the parents would have been arrested malaise May 2013 #20

Or if the parents were "Blah". nt DCKit May 2013 #24

That too malaise May 2013 #25

+1 JustAnotherGen May 2013 #27

Yep. Case in point after we read all these stories, first one I ever read charged with a crime: freshwest May 2013 #55

I'm of the mindset JustAnotherGen May 2013 #28

Every gun is sacred! BrotherIvan May 2013 #26

C'mon, who could foresee a little kid putting something in his mouth? Deep13 May 2013 #43

Yeah, ya know, premium May 2013 #46

The baby should have taken a gun safety course. Deep13 May 2013 #106

If you're going to have a PSD keep it on your side. ileus May 2013 #44

Explain to me again why none of these incidents rise to the level SheilaT May 2013 #47

The price we pay so that folks like the poster just above your post can fondle their guns Hoyt May 2013 #51

Nobody here has said it's ok for kids being killed or maimed this way premium May 2013 #56

"Blacks voting? You know damn good and well that it ain't ever going to happen." Robb May 2013 #61

You really think gun confiscation will happen? premium May 2013 #64

You really think a black man will ever vote in the South? Robb May 2013 #68

What does this have to do with gun confiscation? premium May 2013 #72

"Gun confiscation." Also, black men are coming to rape all the white women. Robb May 2013 #74

My opinion is that it ain't never going to happen, premium May 2013 #75

It took a civil war to make that happen, you know. Most of the same crowd that refuse gun control: freshwest May 2013 #76

Uh no. beevul May 2013 #84

You must not realize that is worse. Robb May 2013 #87

Let me think... beevul May 2013 #90

You really could use a basic statistics class. jeff47 May 2013 #120

Uh huh. I'm well aware of how statistics work. beevul May 2013 #137

So, even if your own child, or brother, SheilaT May 2013 #88

Once again, premium May 2013 #89

Every time someone posts that SheilaT May 2013 #100

+One Trillion Uzair May 2013 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author Uzair May 2013 #96

I assure you they are PERFECTLY OK with it Uzair May 2013 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author premium May 2013 #97

Do we ban or confiscate everything that kills more children than guns? hack89 May 2013 #99

Because killing is the gun's primary purpose. jeff47 May 2013 #121

So it is not about the actual number of dead kids? hack89 May 2013 #123

^^ There you have it. ^^ Eleanors38 May 2013 #131

Fine, Let's Do That SoCalMusicLover May 2013 #138

The poster I was replying to wanted to ban guns, not limit them. hack89 May 2013 #139

Any Limit Would Be Better Than What Is The Current Situation SoCalMusicLover May 2013 #140

Speaking of MASS HYSTERIA!. nt hack89 May 2013 #141

Better sense rickyhall May 2013 #48

In fairness to the legislature.... OmahaBlueDog May 2013 #52

I would assume destroyed if live Duckhunter935 May 2013 #57

Sometimes words only need a graphic warning. rug May 2013 #53

The thrice repeated phrase in the OP 'expected to survive,' doesn't prove much. freshwest May 2013 #108

Horrible. rug May 2013 #112

Since society as a whole, and the legal avebury May 2013 #59

well, the nuts have (even here) likened their hiding of arms to hiding Poles from Nazis MisterP May 2013 #66

This is NOT an accident. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #71

At least the gun is safe geomon666 May 2013 #83

It's all the toddler's fault that he didn't follow the advice given him in kestrel91316 May 2013 #91

If you have a kid, keep your damn guns locked the fuck up!!! Initech May 2013 #92

The police should investigate this further. AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #102

Guns are just a tool like any other, say the gunners... alcibiades_mystery May 2013 #104

It is against the law in Minnesota Jenoch May 2013 #105

Im beginning to think the NRA's real agenda is population control. bunnies May 2013 #107

One more time--THIS IS NOT AN ACCIDENT!! randr May 2013 #111

I was being a little flip with an earlier comment. timdog44 May 2013 #113

"They are being taught..." Eleanors38 May 2013 #132

thanks. I really wonder where our liberal pro gun DUers are here! CTyankee May 2013 #114

Why are these guns LOADED? felix_numinous May 2013 #115

it's garden-variety gun nut paranoia Skittles May 2013 #118

Because when you wake up in the middle of the night... jeff47 May 2013 #122

wow on the irony factor: salin May 2013 #116

Guess the rights of guns are as sacrosanct to North Carolina legislators as gun-owner rights indepat May 2013 #119

What were the parents thinking, leaving a gun where a 2 year old could get it? liberal N proud May 2013 #126

It's time to start jailing some of these parents Warpy May 2013 #129

Absolutely. The country and their children sure as hell don't need their kind of parental care. nt valerief May 2013 #134

It wasn't an accident. It was negligence, pure and simple. You don't leave loaded guns laying around valerief May 2013 #133

I'll say it again marions ghost May 2013 #147

Shame on the parents for not securing that firearm. rl6214 May 2013 #146

Parents need to be charged with reckless endangerment or negligent homicide gopiscrap May 2013 #151