Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
5. Swedish law is not US law.
Sun May 19, 2013, 11:27 PM
May 2013

The US/UK legal system and the Swedish legal system do things differently.

Then the Swedish authorities should have no trouble interviewing him in the embassy, or guaranteeing him that he won't be extradited.

The "interview" you speak of is not an "interview" in the US/UK legal sense. It's the equivalent of getting a statement from a suspect immediately after his arrest. Or so says the courts in the UK.

So it's not "let's sit down and see what he has to say". It's "we're ready to arrest, but we talk to the suspect before putting the cuffs on."

As for a blanket no extradition, that's not exactly reasonable. The Swedish authorities have no idea if Assange is going to commit a crime while in Sweden that would normally cause extradition. I don't think Assange will, but the Swedish authorities can't assume he's a nice guy....after all, they are putting him on trial.

That's why there is the suggestion of a conspiracy: because there is no reasonable explanation for why they reject all compromise.

Only because those demanding compromise really don't understand much of the legal system beyond TV. There's the above-mentioned misunderstanding about what stage the case is in Sweden.

Then there's the problem that Assange hasn't broken any US laws, and is in fact protected by the first amendment. Manning can only be charged with a crime because he waived his first amendment rights regarding classified information in order to get his security clearance. Assange has not waived his rights.

Think of it this way: If the reporters for the New York Times couldn't be put in prison for the Pentagon Papers, neither can Assange.

And we'll now move on to the "US will come up with something to get him!!" stage of the discussion.....

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Diving into the deep end with this...but what if he actually raped that woman? Gravitycollapse May 2013 #1
If he did rape her LittleBlue May 2013 #2
Swedish law is not US law. jeff47 May 2013 #5
two words: bradley manning. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #12
Yep LittleBlue May 2013 #16
Except their law requires that he be questioned in Sweden. nt pnwmom May 2013 #26
His Crime is "Sex By Suprise" not rape..Get that straight! mpgalloway May 2013 #3
No, the claim is that he held the victim down after she wanted him to put on a condom. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #4
Difficult call nlomb269 May 2013 #6
Swedish law and US law are not the same on this subject. jeff47 May 2013 #8
... in November a Swedish court approved a request to detain Mr Assange for questioning relating to struggle4progress May 2013 #33
"The other woman wanted to report rape. I gave my testimony to support her story" struggle4progress May 2013 #36
Fair question, but as I understand it, the women involved never intended to file a complaint 99th_Monkey May 2013 #7
If your quote were true, Assange would have already gone to Sweden jeff47 May 2013 #9
It all comes down to one thing at the end of the day 99th_Monkey May 2013 #10
Nope. First it comes down to which story makes any sense jeff47 May 2013 #11
sweden is where the charges are. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #13
No evidence whatsoever of an indictment. ucrdem May 2013 #17
Thanks for this link! dreamnightwind May 2013 #18
+1000 n/t 99th_Monkey May 2013 #24
"Obama's atrocious record punishing whistleblowers"? ucrdem May 2013 #15
Your kidding. GoneFishin May 2013 #19
the UK can't just hand him over Rise Rebel Resist May 2013 #22
"The other woman wanted to report rape. I gave my testimony to support her story" struggle4progress May 2013 #35
"GCHQ is exempt from the Freedom of Information Act." ucrdem May 2013 #14
Instant messages that sound like idle gossip by low-level employees. randome May 2013 #20
Well... ucrdem May 2013 #21
"It's more proof of a cover-up!" struggle4progress May 2013 #34
Definitely a fit-up. ucrdem May 2013 #37
Exposing war crimes is a crime. Octafish May 2013 #23
Leaking classified info is a crime. Sometimes leaking is done for good reasons CJCRANE May 2013 #25
Is it still a "crime" when the "leaking" is an inside job 99th_Monkey May 2013 #28
Of course it is. CJCRANE May 2013 #29
Excellent! 99th_Monkey May 2013 #30
Plus I think the media relies on too many "anonymous sources"... CJCRANE May 2013 #31
Not if you're a journalist. Octafish May 2013 #32
So the whole AP thing has been a figment of our collective imagination? cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #38
We must be talking about two different things, because I didn't say that. Octafish May 2013 #39
It is "speculation and chatter" pnwmom May 2013 #27
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Assange reveals GCHQ mess...»Reply #5