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261. Note that the claim from Liberty Belle, Nadin's colleague and the author of some of the articles

Mon May 20, 2013, 06:42 AM

May 2013

is that the 'stray voltage' '1000 times normal' is 'in the home'. This is not, however, about a fault in the electrical system of the people's homes, or the transmission system. It's about a turbine generator approximately a mile away. What ground current do you think is being measured in that case? What do you think the normal value is? And how do you think a generator that far away is an unwanted current to ground inside someone's home?

This is why we think the invocation of 'stray voltage' is meaningless crap, invoked by a journalist who doesn't know what it means, but wants to pander to their right wing NIMBY readers, and so throws any old accusation at the wind turbines, hoping it will impress someone. Notice also that in #147, LB claims this 'stray voltage' can cause cancer. That is a horrible example of fear-mongering, and without foundation.

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OCOTILLO WIND TURBINE THROWS OFF MULTI-TON BLADE, PROMPTING WORLD-WIDE SHUT DOWN OF SIMILAR TURBINES [View all] nadinbrzezinski May 2013 OP

Other thread didn't go as well as you hoped, huh? (nt) jeff47 May 2013 #1

This thread? Brother Buzz May 2013 #12

Two are more better... greytdemocrat May 2013 #33

Interesting but could you please edit without the caps. n/t maddezmom May 2013 #2

BUT THEN THE THREAD WOULDN'T LOOK AS STRIDENT! n/t backscatter712 May 2013 #46

But that's how the source did it. Is that an exception to the rule about yelling with caps? freshwest May 2013 #317

WHY? THE ORIGINAL TITLE IS ALL CAPS. RC May 2013 #191

I'm a fan of wind energy... Cooley Hurd May 2013 #3

I was there at Ocotillo yesterday nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #5

Hummm... One day interviewing the head of dog-catching in some small Florida city bluestate10 May 2013 #114

When exactly was I in Florida? nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #115

What is the purpose of this post? Are you doubting the accuracy of the OP? If so, get some rhett o rick May 2013 #122

Yeah, I really didn't grock how big those blades are until I was alongside one on the freeway. MindPilot May 2013 #14

Back on the old DU I put up a thread of my encounter with a couple of those blades.... A HERETIC I AM May 2013 #76

Off-topic, I remember thinking Little America was the coolest place on earth when I was little Codeine May 2013 #78

I love it! One of the neatest truckstops out there! A HERETIC I AM May 2013 #81

Oh, I remember my first visit in 1962. defacto7 May 2013 #252

These are 173 feet long, the newer generation of larger turbines. Each weighs about 11 tons. Liberty Belle May 2013 #141

I've only seen them from a distance when they looked in proportion to the towers themselves. freshwest May 2013 #318

How long do they expect the environmental clean-up to take? Like an hour? Ian David May 2013 #4

You laugh, CSU San Marcos is doing the work up nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #6

Why not just link to the other thread where you brought this up? jeff47 May 2013 #7

So seems like you have moved on from the turbines/ infrasound causing cancer to maddezmom May 2013 #9

They've amortized the cost of installing the turbines by using them to fling insecticide?? winter is coming May 2013 #28

Your guess is as good as mine and Nadin maddezmom May 2013 #37

That blade was really hit by a North Korea missile. Whisp May 2013 #53

More like that blade took a NK missile out! Codeine May 2013 #84

Your ridicule is unbecoming. Do you think you are still in Jr. High? nm rhett o rick May 2013 #124

Same author. NYC_SKP May 2013 #179

It is getting more and more pathetic maddezmom May 2013 #182

Stray voltage from wind turbines has been measured at 1,000 times where there's a cancer cluster Liberty Belle May 2013 #143

The stray voltage has been measured at 1,000 times what? winter is coming May 2013 #148

The medical study is ongoing at Cal State San Marcos. Liberty Belle May 2013 #152

And what is considered normal in a rural area? It could be 1,000 times greater and still not winter is coming May 2013 #158

Cancer cluster is established by the number of cases of cancer- WCLinolVir May 2013 #175

At this point, it's only suspected, so saying they have one is premature. winter is coming May 2013 #177

WOW, who said anything about incest?? Tay Sachs isn't cancer. It is RARE. WCLinolVir May 2013 #195

I never claimed Tay Sachs was cancer. And yes, it's rare, but the risk winter is coming May 2013 #198

Anyone who thinks being near high voltage causes cancer needs to not lecture on learning facts. n/t Ian David May 2013 #153

Please define 'stray voltage' muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #162

It's like this... you put out a few capacitors, and the voltage follows you home. n/t winter is coming May 2013 #164

Is stray voltage directly porportional to stray amperes? defacto7 May 2013 #254

We must always fear stray megaHertz. winter is coming May 2013 #265

I has a case of the stray megahertz once... SidDithers May 2013 #275

I thought there was a cream for that. nt msanthrope May 2013 #291

At last! The Siemens statement. Brickbat May 2013 #8

It means stopping or slowing, apparently. winter is coming May 2013 #25

I don't "get" that. This isn't a passenger aircraft. FBaggins May 2013 #116

I'd say they're hedging their bets. winter is coming May 2013 #118

This photo shows how close those turbines are too homes - too closer for comfort if a blade fell Liberty Belle May 2013 #163

Huh, wut? RC May 2013 #201

Kids do NOT cover their ears because of turbine noise. NYC_SKP May 2013 #205

That's what I said. RC May 2013 #213

I know you've never been there, but those turbines are WAY OFF in the distance. NYC_SKP May 2013 #207

Liberty Belle wrote the article in the OP. tammywammy May 2013 #212

Upon scanning her articles, there's definitely and agenda or bias against energy projects. NYC_SKP May 2013 #214

Yeah, I saw a search of the anti-wind articles tammywammy May 2013 #215

Aha, thank you for that piece of information. eom uppityperson May 2013 #249

That's an Aha! moment for me... SidDithers May 2013 #250

It was mentioned in the Jay Polk thread. tammywammy May 2013 #251

Yeah. Once you posted it here, it clicked... SidDithers May 2013 #253

She should be upfront about it tammywammy May 2013 #255

I agree...nt SidDithers May 2013 #256

Oh, the magic of the telephoto lens Brother Buzz May 2013 #219

They are shut down here, and elsewhere until they inspect all the blades. Liberty Belle May 2013 #144

"Here" is meaningless in this context. Brickbat May 2013 #145

"Much angst over wind turbines is just hot air" Gravitycollapse May 2013 #10

I think this turbine farm is on land owned by US citizens and managed by the Bureau byeya May 2013 #19

And? Gravitycollapse May 2013 #21

And, you said people change their minds when hosting turbines which is not the case here. byeya May 2013 #24

Most of the people making money are absentee landlords, making their neighbors sick for profit. Liberty Belle May 2013 #154

Those neighbors are not sick. Their illnesses are fabrications of their imagination. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #167

"Can Expectations Produce Symptoms From Infrasound Associated With Wind Turbines?" winter is coming May 2013 #168

I fail to see the problem MindPilot May 2013 #11

How Many Threads on this are you going to post? dieter May 2013 #13

Two different stories nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #15

"I expect as much pushback on this too" Brickbat May 2013 #16

+1 Hong Kong Cavalier May 2013 #20

Brickbat, you know that Mrs. Nooz reporter is a genius sad-cafe May 2013 #51

How sad that you think you can ridicule a DU poster. This is not jr. high. nm rhett o rick May 2013 #125

This post was alerted on. The jury voted 3/3 to let it stand. ohiosmith May 2013 #126

Nailed it. n/t winter is coming May 2013 #77

If Siemens is shutting down all wind turbines of this model they make, it's byeya May 2013 #17

It is a big deal nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #18

60% of Germany's energy comes from solar, nearly all on roofs and parking lots. Liberty Belle May 2013 #142

Got some links for that? Which "German energy expert"? Why/where was he speaking? winter is coming May 2013 #149

Actually, she is partially correct - Germany has produced 50% of its power from solar jpak May 2013 #295

Yes, I know that Germany makes far better use of solar power than we do. winter is coming May 2013 #297

Bullshit. 5% of german electricity comes from solar; 7% from wind muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #166

Read a little more please. Solar power is dominant during the day, providing up to 50 percent WCLinolVir May 2013 #241

No, you are wrong and Muriel is correct. For Germany, it's about 3% of the total elec. mix. NYC_SKP May 2013 #245

The statement was not "there has been some point at which solar once provided 50% muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #259

A little high school math should prompt you to question your sources. Ms. Toad May 2013 #262

German solar provided 3% of total electricity in 2011... SidDithers May 2013 #263

*Wrong!* OMG, this is ignorance. Please. Are you really the editor at East County Magazine? NYC_SKP May 2013 #217

I did not know that scores of Germans were being killed mainer May 2013 #22

Since the article actually says that.... nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #23

Ummm.... sarcasm? mainer May 2013 #27

They are having the same kind of medical issues nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #30

There is no evidence that infrasound from wind turbines has ill effects on human beings. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #34

Maybe this emerging story should emerge in the direction of explaining winter is coming May 2013 #64

Link to reputable source showing they are "having the same kind of medical issues" as I would like uppityperson May 2013 #95

If you weren't blocking me for having rightly challenged your "science" MNBrewer May 2013 #296

I think the main point is that if all Siemens wind turbines in Germany are being taken off byeya May 2013 #39

This is an industry site nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #49

if it failed like I think, then it was the mounting bolts... nebenaube May 2013 #91

No, just turbines that use that specific blade design. New design. Probably a small number. NYC_SKP May 2013 #218

Uhmm, no, ridicule. WCLinolVir May 2013 #242

its ok its not like that nuke station where they had to use buckets Rise Rebel Resist May 2013 #26

????? I keep up with this shit nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #29

Japan Rise Rebel Resist May 2013 #176

Three Mile Island. Wednesdays May 2013 #189

Do these things get inspected for safety? treestar May 2013 #31

In theory. nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #38

How about manufacturing defects? This shouldn't have happened. Infrastructure should last for years. freshwest May 2013 #319

You've been asked nicely... TeeYiYi May 2013 #32

Because they are coming straight from the paper nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #36

It's simply a request... TeeYiYi May 2013 #45

It's coming straight from a damn paper nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #48

People are contacting you... TeeYiYi May 2013 #55

I am just telling you what it is nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #58

Thank God. aquart May 2013 #184

We are contacting you and asking to please change to not all caps. It is easy to do, please. uppityperson May 2013 #94

WHO CARES? RC May 2013 #211

Well, if you're so proficient at cut and paste... winter is coming May 2013 #52

Post removed Post removed May 2013 #60

The question I would ask is how many other posts Ms. Toad May 2013 #83

Good point Ms. Toad. polly7 May 2013 #87

I only consider it an issue Ms. Toad May 2013 #92

Thanks, and I will restate what I have said nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #119

I was on the same jury... TeeYiYi May 2013 #88

If I was nadin - Ms. Toad May 2013 #101

That's a ridiculous reason to alert on someone. winter is coming May 2013 #100

So who cares. Ms. Toad May 2013 #107

Ahh the rationalization. She deserves to be bullied. Her post was ridiculous therefore she deserves rhett o rick May 2013 #127

LOL. I was already composing a response to one of your "this isn't junior high" posts, so winter is coming May 2013 #128

For what it's worth Democracyinkind May 2013 #129

If an explanation pecwae May 2013 #130

^^^^nailed it^^^^ maddezmom May 2013 #132

Sorry but I think your rationalization for ridiculing a DU poster is weak. rhett o rick May 2013 #136

Wow, there's so many straw men there, I don't know where to start. winter is coming May 2013 #137

Speaking of strawmen, I have no problem with asking for validation of claims. rhett o rick May 2013 #138

"Is the poster's behavior so bad that it justifies the ridicule and mocking?" winter is coming May 2013 #139

Oh really? RC May 2013 #223

Pointing out that someone else's post is ridiculous isn't bullying. winter is coming May 2013 #224

I find it sad that people feel the need to make bullying Nadin a hobby. I am all for hrmjustin May 2013 #225

She said that wind turbines give you cancer. That's the kind of shit they medicate you over. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #226

Look I don't always agree with her but people here make it a sport to go after her. hrmjustin May 2013 #228

Well, she made the sport popular. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #229

I am not talking about the Op or her views. I am talking about the swarm that lives to hrmjustin May 2013 #231

Let's not kid ourselves. She foments those attacks. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #232

As I said I don't always agree with her, but there are those here who live to ridicule her. hrmjustin May 2013 #233

"We should remember it takes two to tango." winter is coming May 2013 #237

Look there are people who live to torment her here. I find that childish. hrmjustin May 2013 #243

She enjoys this - she's changed her signature to muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #260

I am all for challenging her opinions, that is what this site is for. hrmjustin May 2013 #264

I'm supportive and defensive of Nadin, I don't like the bullying. NYC_SKP May 2013 #227

My friend I am not talking about questioning her OP. hrmjustin May 2013 #230

It is sad. NYC_SKP May 2013 #234

I really did not pay much attention to it until I became a host. hrmjustin May 2013 #235

And I was a moderator for many years. NYC_SKP May 2013 #236

I have had a different experience with some of the folk responding with derision to the post. IdaBriggs May 2013 #279

Let's talk about your content shall we? You do not, I believe have a degree in the WCLinolVir May 2013 #188

Let me tell you someting I'm very clear on, regarding research. winter is coming May 2013 #202

Obviously never worked for either the railroad or a power company. WCLinolVir May 2013 #208

I did respond to what you said. winter is coming May 2013 #216

Nice ambiguity but don't attribute remarks to me that I have not made. I never asked for, nor WCLinolVir May 2013 #238

There are still paid shills crusading about the lack of evidence for climate change. winter is coming May 2013 #240

Could not care less. Your tactics are what I am talking about. WCLinolVir May 2013 #244

Please don't misquote me. winter is coming May 2013 #246

Note that the claim from Liberty Belle, Nadin's colleague and the author of some of the articles muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #261

+++1! patrice May 2013 #109

Post removed Post removed May 2013 #257

Thank you. nt pecwae May 2013 #258

There is no consistancy with the jury system alerts and results. L0oniX May 2013 #303

You Rock, Ms. Toad. NYC_SKP May 2013 #315

Thanks - Ms. Toad May 2013 #316

your almost 300 reply thread wasn't enough? Who gets to "hug a turbine" this time around sad-cafe May 2013 #35

In my best FDR voice..."Yesterday, May 16, 2013 - a date which will live in infamy.... Junkdrawer May 2013 #40

How small world of you nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #41

The idea that an 11 ton blade from a turbine could fly for a mile is absurd. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #43

Scotland advises a two kilometer separation from housing because of the failures large wind turbines byeya May 2013 #54

Demonstrate to me how an 11 ton blade from a turbine could fly a mile? Gravitycollapse May 2013 #56

"Coming up on Mythbusters. . ." nt Codeine May 2013 #86

Q: How many JATOs to "Duplicate the Results"??? Junkdrawer May 2013 #112

Parts of a blade that failed traveled a mile. That, in part, is why nations are establishing a 2km byeya May 2013 #273

In Kansas. During a tornado. What else traveled a mile or more during that tornado? n/t winter is coming May 2013 #278

Jars of pickles, farm animals, pieces of houses... Gravitycollapse May 2013 #281

No, they don't. Scotland does not have a two-kilometer exclusion zone. NYC_SKP May 2013 #185

Wow. A mile is a lot shorter than it used to be. n/t winter is coming May 2013 #44

Creative license. Junkdrawer May 2013 #50

Nadin often finds difficulty with measurements. Codeine May 2013 #74

That was because she told us there were 60cm in a metre...nt SidDithers May 2013 #93

It's hard to tell after the termites ate most of it... Brother Buzz May 2013 #99

DU CELEB HURLS POSTS INTO MEMORY HOLE, PROMPTING THREAD-WIDE SHUTDOWN OF SNARK nt Codeine May 2013 #106

Looks like she admitted to making it all up out of whole cloth Rex May 2013 #267

NO, she did not make it up. It DID hail in Mexico City Brother Buzz May 2013 #274

The part about 6 feet she did! Rex May 2013 #276

I attribute that to her fuzzy math Brother Buzz May 2013 #277

No, it was there are 60cm in a meter. tammywammy May 2013 #283

Well, there you have it Brother Buzz May 2013 #284

Boulevard's Planning Group Chair has testified that a blade flew over 3/4 of a mile here in the past Liberty Belle May 2013 #155

Wow. Must have made the news. Got a link? winter is coming May 2013 #160

What is a Planning Group Chair? How does one become one? Is it you? n/t winter is coming May 2013 #165

Your planning group chair is either mistaken or lying. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #170

It's the stray voltage that does the trick. winter is coming May 2013 #172

As I said in the other thread...not if Michael Bay helps out. Hong Kong Cavalier May 2013 #174

The Boulevard Planning Group chair appears to be Donna Tisdale. winter is coming May 2013 #270

omg Kali May 2013 #42

Has it been leaking wind? Will there be an evacuation? jberryhill May 2013 #47

don't let the dweebs get you down, nadin. nobody is forcing them to read your posts :-) nt msongs May 2013 #57

Most are getting actively ignored nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #61

Post removed Post removed May 2013 #66

Results of the hidden reply below yours- by sad-cafe: NYC_SKP May 2013 #80

BUT SHE'S HOLDING A GUN ON ME! pinboy3niner May 2013 #71

Post removed Post removed May 2013 #73

No kidding, I don't know why they're still trying to push Warpy May 2013 #59

And there are some that don't have blades nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #62

Yes, the barrel design is only one of those Warpy May 2013 #65

I don't always rec Nadin's threads Capt. Obvious May 2013 #63

Capt. Obvious is. . . The Snarkiest Man in the World. Codeine May 2013 #67

I think everyone on her ignore list should rec her threads Capt. Obvious May 2013 #69

I used to use wind power like you. Apophis May 2013 #90

UFF DA! MineralMan May 2013 #68

Off road vehicles are the real blight here, Nadin. NYC_SKP May 2013 #70

We will disagree nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #72

Just please study up on the tech. NYC_SKP May 2013 #75

They don't want it nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #79

And SDG&E is a corporate donor to the Heartland Coalition... SidDithers May 2013 #183

So, by dropping a turbine blade on a jeep trail, "they" have cleverly discouraged off-roading?? winter is coming May 2013 #82

Siemens: Discouraging Vehicular Habitat Destruction Eleven Tons at a Time. nt Codeine May 2013 #85

Next time it'll count! NYC_SKP May 2013 #121

OH MY GAWDS THE WINDS ARE GONNA GIVE US THE CANCER! 11111 Apophis May 2013 #89

Since that has not been stated nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #96

You did not state it directly but intimated it on the other thread over a half dozen times maddezmom May 2013 #97

Ass. winter is coming May 2013 #104

Yes,I have a nice one maddezmom May 2013 #111

LOL. No doubt, but I was pointing out a typo that made the sentence a bit strange. n/t winter is coming May 2013 #113

Word! NYC_SKP May 2013 #120

It appears to me that you have posted a number of posts in this thread attempting to disparage the rhett o rick May 2013 #123

Bullshit. She posted the OP and made claims throughout this thread that she will not back up. maddezmom May 2013 #131

"Request backup"?? Seriously?? To do what? rhett o rick May 2013 #133

She presents herself as a journalist. She makes claims about wind farms causing cancer clusters. maddezmom May 2013 #134

Thank you for stating the obvious. A mature approach to discussion. It's so easy to ignore sabrina 1 May 2013 #292

The only bullshit I see is yours. I see an attempt at intimidation. WCLinolVir May 2013 #203

Asking for links to backup claims is intimidation? maddezmom May 2013 #209

No. Characterizing a response that you did not feel was WCLinolVir May 2013 #239

+1 L0oniX May 2013 #302

They CAN cause cancer but not from the noise - from the stray voltage. 1,000 times normal Liberty Belle May 2013 #147

Wow, that stray voltage must be incredibly damaging! Odd that it's only now being mentioned. n/t winter is coming May 2013 #150

So do you have any documentation? maddezmom May 2013 #151

Wind turbines must be awfuller [sic] than power lines!! n/t winter is coming May 2013 #161

Voltage coming up from the ground? Codeine May 2013 #159

Nope. Definitely makes zero sense. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #171

You don't even know what stray voltage is. There's zero evidence that stray voltage causes cancer. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #169

Here's how you can know you're being fed bullshit, even without understanding the physics jeff47 May 2013 #222

Volts-voltage, amps, amperage. Are you still following?? Watts-wattage. There is a test. WCLinolVir May 2013 #247

And ground voltage is what? jeff47 May 2013 #248

Anything to support these assertions? MNBrewer May 2013 #298

I think you're going to have to link to some reliable MineralMan May 2013 #305

This... Apophis May 2013 #98

No, no, the bass-out-of-human-hearing-range vibrations caused by big moving blades attached to patrice May 2013 #105

Where's a good mom & pop wind turbine manufacturer when you need one. mathematic May 2013 #102

The story is that someone COULD have died here. It fell on a TRAIL. Liberty Belle May 2013 #146

"More turbines are proposed in San Diego that would be only 500 feet from roads" winter is coming May 2013 #156

Octillo is Cthulu cousin? nt patrice May 2013 #103

Ocotillo is just Aztec Cthulhu. Codeine May 2013 #108

Wow! What an amazing piece!! Yeah, have you ever seen one of those National Geographic patrice May 2013 #110

Try living near sour gas wells daleo May 2013 #117

Or having tap water HappyMe May 2013 #135

That too daleo May 2013 #140

HOLY FUCK! AGAIN???? Warren DeMontague May 2013 #157

I can't wait to see what bullshit gets flung at the wall next. n/t winter is coming May 2013 #173

This one is a few days old and Nadin is not the one who kicked it. hrmjustin May 2013 #178

Correct maddezmom May 2013 #180

Thanks I did not know that. hrmjustin May 2013 #181

Huh? madinmaryland May 2013 #187

I may be wrong but it looks like Liberty Belle is the one that kicked it maddezmom May 2013 #190

Yes and I was only pointing out that Nadin did not start this up again. hrmjustin May 2013 #192

I know. I was responding to madinmaryland maddezmom May 2013 #193

I wasn't starting in I was agreeing with you on who kicked it. hrmjustin May 2013 #194

Ah, I thought Warren did it. Thanks for explaining. freshwest May 2013 #320

Nadin can't kick this thread, she got locked out of her own thread on Friday Brother Buzz May 2013 #196

Why? did she get a hidden post? hrmjustin May 2013 #197

Yes, post # 73 Brother Buzz May 2013 #199

I did not see that one. hrmjustin May 2013 #200

Has the East County Magazine ever disclosed its inherent conflict of interest wrt Wind Power?... SidDithers May 2013 #186

I cannot imagine what motive SDGE would have to disparage the technology. NYC_SKP May 2013 #204

Assuming a backroom deal or two makes imagining that a whole lot easier. Occulus May 2013 #282

This message was self-deleted by its author Wednesdays May 2013 #206

And....end thread. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #210

There was another thread on this!? Rex May 2013 #220

I think this was #2 out of 4 or 5. n/t winter is coming May 2013 #221

So it turns out she is trying to make money and screw over wind farms. Rex May 2013 #269

What is truly sad is that "activism" like this is likely to impede the efforts of people winter is coming May 2013 #271

Well the lies don't help her cause at all. Rex May 2013 #272

I am more concerned about the direct link JimDandy May 2013 #288

Very Interesting. nt msanthrope May 2013 #290

I have yet to see evidence that Wind Technology is not whistler162 May 2013 #266

HAVING ANY BETTER LUCK NOW THAT YOU'VE POSTED THIS IN ALL-CAPS? truebrit71 May 2013 #268

Result of Alert: 6-0 Leave it Alone. IdaBriggs May 2013 #280

The jury sides with the bully crowd. This poster is considered fair game. Shame on them all. nm rhett o rick May 2013 #286

You obviously have a very low p/a threshold... truebrit71 May 2013 #300

I hate personal attacks and pile-ups. IdaBriggs May 2013 #307

I think you mean pile-ons, no? truebrit71 May 2013 #308

Why don't you try it? Find someone, and in your most pleasant voice say: IdaBriggs May 2013 #309

I have had much, MUCH worse things said about/to me... truebrit71 May 2013 #310

You're upset about the hot air comment pintobean May 2013 #311

Yes, I gave a generic description of the behavior of multiple DUers. IdaBriggs May 2013 #312

No, I am not offended and you didn't use my comments pintobean May 2013 #313

You have a good irony meter there! IdaBriggs May 2013 #314

You just have to get nasty. "considering the amount of hot air you rhett o rick May 2013 #285

Neither nasty nor ridicule... truebrit71 May 2013 #301

Hang in there Nadin. Dont let the bastards get you down. It's not their fault. rhett o rick May 2013 #287

+1 hrmjustin May 2013 #289

'It's all about bullying' sabrina 1 May 2013 #293

Thank you sabrina. rhett o rick May 2013 #294

I am joining the side that says this behavior makes DU suck Generic Other May 2013 #299

Keep watch on Nadin's posts to see all the bullies this site has attracted ...it's pathetic. L0oniX May 2013 #306

Indeed ...and IMO blog bullies should be banned. L0oniX May 2013 #304

What? RudynJack May 2013 #321