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51. annabanana, you would think that the

Mon May 20, 2013, 09:27 AM

May 2013

average, uninformed (sometimes) voter, would hear this and get pissed off enough to want to help change the organized crime system. Not. That would entail critical thinking and a determination to change things.
IDK, if it is the 30+ years of non-stop propaganda or the feeling that they must "go along to get along" but it is a national disease and disgrace.
The press being persecuted? Hell, they have intentionally mislead us about the pillaging of our liberties for so long and they feign outrage when they are affected? They need to start using real, honest journalism to inform the people (continuously) about the injustices facing the multitudes. Then, we might actually give a crap about the abuses against them. Educate the people about the injustices that all non-elite suffer not just their corporate ass.
When progressive people practice civil disobedience, it is news and should be covered, examined and explained (usually slowly) to Americans.
They are (unfortunately) the fourth estate and should inform people. Fuck their corporate masters or accept that their rights are not more sacrosanct than ours.

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Chris Hedges: Rise Up or Die [View all] marmar May 2013 OP

du rec. nt xchrom May 2013 #1

People shooting or blowing us up takes away our basic right to life and pursuit of happiness graham4anything May 2013 #2

Rinse. Repeat. marmar May 2013 #3

If my sink leaks while brushing/flossing, I make sure to immediately stop the leak. graham4anything May 2013 #4

So you make no distinction between leaks exposing malfeasance and leaks djean111 May 2013 #10

I have made my view well known about breadcrumbs thrown by deep throat graham4anything May 2013 #16

Also note . . . TomClash May 2013 #149

Please don't feed the loony birds. Fuddnik May 2013 #6

lol deutsey May 2013 #9

Well said. AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #55

Sadly some welcome the security of fascism. nm rhett o rick May 2013 #105

That poster doesn't welcome fascism because it's "secure" Doctor_J May 2013 #108

There is a common misconception that Hitler forced fascism on the German people. rhett o rick May 2013 #110

Actually, no German majority ever voted for the Nazis. The German Reichstag ended split between struggle4progress May 2013 #140

And the majority of German citizens were happy to go along with the new Germany. nm rhett o rick May 2013 #151

Because... jtuck004 May 2013 #132

Hilarious TomClash May 2013 #148

Not that I agree with Chris Hedges most of the time or even here completely cali May 2013 #5

He's also probably the best journalist in America today. Fuddnik May 2013 #8

Yeah, I know him. He supported Jill Stein in 2012.& was tossed from the NY Times graham4anything May 2013 #11

And How Is Any Of That Relavent cantbeserious May 2013 #14

If you're looking for relevance, you're definitely looking in the wrong place. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #113

Yes - The Mere Mention Of Ralph Sets Some Into A Tizzy cantbeserious May 2013 #126

"I will rise up to the media and altmedia 20%." marmar May 2013 #15

Too much radon buildup in the basement. Fuddnik May 2013 #19

DUzy! CrispyQ May 2013 #56

I'll try. graham seems to believe that he's part of some mythical cali May 2013 #23

I've been wondering what that meant. Solly Mack May 2013 #121

You've got to have you're coffee, marmar. LuvNewcastle May 2013 #26

Coffee isn't going to help either. Starry Messenger May 2013 #27

He lost me on sink & toilet leaks. CrispyQ May 2013 #54

I think he was saying that he is willing to break the toilet to find the leak. nm rhett o rick May 2013 #106

LOL marmar May 2013 #122

OMG....he identifies himself as a SOCIALIST....He can not be trusted, that commie pinko. fasttense May 2013 #44

I think, in this case, "alt-media" is anything or anybody who does not praise Obama, or points out djean111 May 2013 #13

altmedia is the minor league bench of the mainstream media. All are paid to do what they do graham4anything May 2013 #17

Are you saying mainstream media is not bought and paid for? Bwah!!!!!!!! djean111 May 2013 #21

didn't you just read what I wrote? The alt media is the media. graham4anything May 2013 #22

yes, I read what you just wrote. djean111 May 2013 #29

So will the altmedia. That is the point. Fox, NY Post, NY Times, Chris Hedges,Jill Stein=100equal graham4anything May 2013 #33

So, if EVERYONE is a paid hack - who do you believe? Jay Carney? (he is paid too, btw) djean111 May 2013 #36

President Obama. and his FORWARD agenda. graham4anything May 2013 #47

BINGO. ucrdem May 2013 #48

LOL pmorlan1 May 2013 #96

Limbaugh's persona doesn't sell to liberals Fumesucker May 2013 #53

more bloviating bullcrap inanity cali May 2013 #25

Everyone is in it for the 15 minutes as the legendary super duper Andy Warhol used to opine. graham4anything May 2013 #50

no you don't. you support a corporate fascist agenda and EVERYONE is on to that cali May 2013 #58

Please don't do this. ucrdem May 2013 #59

You're not very familiar with Hedges, are you? sabrina 1 May 2013 #65

Here you go. ucrdem May 2013 #66

Reposting the same BS from elsewhere in the thread doesn't diminish its BS-ness. marmar May 2013 #70

I posted a link. n/t ucrdem May 2013 #73

A link to BS elsewhere in the thread. marmar May 2013 #74

It's a factual error and hasn't been refuted. ucrdem May 2013 #75

+1 graham4anything May 2013 #85

disliking Bush does not mean anything but disliking Bush. Cheney disliked W too. graham4anything May 2013 #84

Cheney disliked W? Have some inside information on that? HangOnKids May 2013 #87

Why the discrediting then, grahampuba May 2013 #133

Please dont do what? Speak out? Shame on you. rhett o rick May 2013 #107

"I distrust his intentions" TomClash May 2013 #150

What is extremist about Stein's agenda? How is yours not by definition since it will be TheKentuckian May 2013 #80

lol @ Jill Stein as extremist - TBF May 2013 #94

Do the employees of the DOJ get paid? How about press secretaries? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #90

Would you say the same if it was Bush doing the illegal searches? nm rhett o rick May 2013 #103

Chris Speaks A Truth Americans Should Understand - Will America Listen? cantbeserious May 2013 #7

Should understand...but not willing N_E_1 for Tennis May 2013 #34

Hedges speaks truth. ananda May 2013 #12

Yes, Amanda, that is correct drynberg May 2013 #18

What is he doing to curtail anything? He's selling a book. randome May 2013 #31

I think "sacrifice zones" is not an inaccurate representation. annabanana May 2013 #40

Detroit lost manufacturing jobs, plain and simple. People deserted it in droves. randome May 2013 #42

We don't have as much need for manufacturing HERE.. Since there annabanana May 2013 #45

Right on cue with the character attack. OnyxCollie May 2013 #120

My point is that he's simply saying things are bad without offering anything constructive. randome May 2013 #123

I am quite calm, I assure you. OnyxCollie May 2013 #152

It is the truth, that's why it pisses some people off mightily. LuvNewcastle May 2013 #30

The Moby Dick references really hits home. Junkdrawer May 2013 #52

Hedges is warning that the US will go the way of the USSR. Joe Bacon May 2013 #20

And then we'll have a dictator. LuvNewcastle May 2013 #28

the OPPOSITE-Hedges saying the USSR broke up-it became a DEMOCRACY and NOT a dictatorship graham4anything May 2013 #86

Right you are about the USSR! I hadn't noticed that disconnect! randome May 2013 #92

Little has changed since Obama's been in office. LuvNewcastle May 2013 #144

yawn.Tell that to 10s millions and millions of men and women that now can become President graham4anything May 2013 #145

LOL! LuvNewcastle May 2013 #146

Joe, you are exactly correct dotymed May 2013 #46

Thank you marmar. dotymed May 2013 #24

Just another tale told by an. . . ucrdem May 2013 #32

'There are no US "governmental agencies" arrayed against Julian Assange' marmar May 2013 #41

Yes I'm sure Julian will tell us all about them ucrdem May 2013 #43

He doesn't have to, we saw the memos. Perhaps you did not. Btw, thanks to Anonymous sabrina 1 May 2013 #68

You have evidence of charges brought against Assange by the US? ucrdem May 2013 #69

His American attorney saw the memos planning to try to get a GJ to indict him. sabrina 1 May 2013 #76

May I see these memos, tia. n/t ucrdem May 2013 #77

Check this out dreamnightwind May 2013 #102

Thanks, I was about to post a few links in response to the outrageous denials we are seeing here. sabrina 1 May 2013 #134

Quite welcome dreamnightwind May 2013 #143

For all one knows, the man behind that V for vengence mask is Karl Rove. graham4anything May 2013 #91

LOL pmorlan1 May 2013 #99

I have to say your posts are some of the funniest I have ever seen on DU. I no longer bother sabrina 1 May 2013 #135

I am impressed with your dedication to Ralph Nader. I guess it's hero worship. But I must disagree rhett o rick May 2013 #138

Thanks for posting right-wing sophistry. Marr May 2013 #111

I just exposed it, but you're trying to defend it. ucrdem May 2013 #114

Can I get some of whatever your drinking? nm rhett o rick May 2013 #139

You can deplore the leak AND condemn the egregious violation of rights. snot May 2013 #35

writing for the choir..... madrchsod May 2013 #37

They did in 2008. The revolution was won in 2008. Yet the Bush's want back in 2016 graham4anything May 2013 #147

I think of something Charles Bowles said in 1946 that I read recently . . . HughBeaumont May 2013 #38

This American obsession with the constant "growth" of jobs and consumption as the xtraxritical May 2013 #60

In the late 60's.... ewagner May 2013 #64

Aaaaaand, it's pretty much why I won't go back to school for finance. HughBeaumont May 2013 #67

Friedman.... ewagner May 2013 #71

I have a degree in economics from the Catholic University of America in Washington D,C. xtraxritical May 2013 #78

Thank you ewagner May 2013 #63

Prescient. ...... I've got to get that book. marmar May 2013 #79

Here is the section that most spoke to me.. Like Carlin, but without the nervous giggles: annabanana May 2013 #39

annabanana, you would think that the dotymed May 2013 #51

sometimes truth is painful dembotoz May 2013 #49

"These sacrifice zones succumbed first. You and I are next. " dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #57

AutoChrisHedgesDURec KG May 2013 #61

In a strange way, I understand Hedges' desperation... ewagner May 2013 #62

Good post. Imo, only by having a free and open press can we change the course this country sabrina 1 May 2013 #72

This just says it all: Brigid May 2013 #81

no, no, no! YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!!!!!!1111111 datasuspect May 2013 #82

K&R For Truth, Justice, and the American way. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #83

Kinda like that State Farm Commercial, huh? Junkdrawer May 2013 #88

Sounds right. Unfortunately, I see very few commercials since the only TV I watch is Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #89

Classic. It was meant as a diss of the Internet.... Junkdrawer May 2013 #93

Occupy is waiting for y'all. Every day we have to wait for y'all, we Zorra May 2013 #95

+1 Fire Walk With Me May 2013 #98

Truth. n/t Fire Walk With Me May 2013 #97

Americans are to lazy to rise up. n/t Hotler May 2013 #100

Sad but true. Nt abelenkpe May 2013 #130

For the Working Class, NeoLiberalism = Conservatism. bvar22 May 2013 #101

And the graven image is a bull, too. Brigid May 2013 #115

The difference is... bvar22 May 2013 #116

You are quite right -- this was no accident. Brigid May 2013 #118

The Scandal DuJour, or Debunking the Scandal DuJour is much more fun and distracting. bvar22 May 2013 #119

People are rising up, but not in a revolutionary way Corruption Inc May 2013 #104

The USSR fell apart by becoming more like the U.S. randome May 2013 #112

+1000 DeSwiss May 2013 #125

Excellent points. marmar May 2013 #127

The only reason the revolt hasn't started is that many are afraid Doctor_J May 2013 #109

History teaches that the fear you speak of is well founded. Brigid May 2013 #117

K&R DeSwiss May 2013 #124

"Don't Starve -- Fight!" Brigid May 2013 #128

Way past time to stand up to these sociopathic greed machines. JEB May 2013 #129

"Refuse to cooperate." marmar May 2013 #131

No-growth economics, or steady - state economics. It's where we're going, it's what we're toby jo May 2013 #136

Anger is only the first stage.... RagAss May 2013 #137

"They have turned the judiciary into one of their wholly owned subsidiaries" DallasNE May 2013 #141

K&R Makes me feel like broken record but like I always say. raouldukelives May 2013 #142