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2. Note: Agent Orange and Roundup Are Not the Same.

Mon May 20, 2013, 02:11 PM

May 2013

They're not the same chemical, so this article starts of on a completely incorrect premise.

http://kfolta.blogspot.com/2012/04/agent-orange-monsanto-and-little.html

Agent Orange was a defoliant weaponized by the US military during the Vietnam War. It was composed of a 50-50 mix of 2,4-D and 2,4,5-T, 2,4-dichlorophenoxyacetic acid and 2,4,5 trichlorophenoxyacetic acid, respectfully. These compounds are auxins. Auxins are a class of plant growth regulator associated with cell division, elongation growth, and a large suite of other plant processes. These two auxins are synthetic mimics of the natural compounds. They work well at low concentrations because plants do not have a means to break them down easily. Essentially, a plant grows itself to death.

There was no glyphosate in Agent Orange.

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