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lindysalsagal

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38. You got me thinking that the entire film was about the right/wrong ambiguity

Mon May 20, 2013, 05:12 PM

May 2013

and how taking the risk of "helping"Harrison was the only way to find out what his weakness was so that it could be exploited by Spock.

The old Kirk would have blown the bastard's head off, but this new one understands that life and morality aren't black and white, they're up for interpretation. The new Kirk knew that with a super-being who's fully informed about what's going on, he'd have to get close to him and take that risk. He also knew in his gut that the bad torpedo star fleet orders signaled something sinister and suspect in the federation. He knew he'd never find the answers without following harrison. Also, Harrison had rescued them from the klingons, so, he knew harrison needed them, he just didn't know why. Spock figured it out.

Super-super spoiler::::: LOOK AWAY!!!!!!!!

Will someone please explain to me how the spocks had that conversation!!!!! Why didn't they have it much much sooner? Why did the young spock even think the old spock would have any dirt on the guy?

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Star Trek film has political message (Spoiler) [View all] lindysalsagal May 2013 OP

I saw it dsc May 2013 #1

We will, on Tuesday nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #2

Actually, I disagree. graham4anything May 2013 #3

I think it's hard to attribute political messages to a recycled story. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #8

well, as Ronald Reagan used to say graham4anything May 2013 #12

You took this movie LWolf May 2013 #16

Logic says President Obama is very Spock/Yoda like. graham4anything May 2013 #18

Good God. LWolf May 2013 #20

Without Star Trek, there wouldn't have been Star Wars. graham4anything May 2013 #22

That's a hypothesis, anyway. LWolf May 2013 #27

Yeah. I cried a little on the special moment~ lindysalsagal May 2013 #36

Nope. Not sure I want to. I suspect the real message is... longship May 2013 #4

Roddenberry was overrated Shivering Jemmy May 2013 #5

Yup! But there were many pretty great episodes. longship May 2013 #6

TV for a different era. Throckmorton May 2013 #11

Could not agree with you more, Longship. Cannikin May 2013 #28

Roddenberry though had nothing to do with 2.He was relieved of his duties after 1. graham4anything May 2013 #13

He still had involvment. He was removed as producer. Cannikin May 2013 #31

He was right about the flip phones, automatic doors, racial intermixing lindysalsagal May 2013 #41

The communications officer is the third in command XemaSab May 2013 #43

Except in every episode and film Orrex May 2013 #48

LOL! Engineering was actually shot in a brewery. dogknob May 2013 #17

That's why I posted my post. longship May 2013 #24

you should check out this honest trailer. ejpoeta May 2013 #26

And more lens flares! ROFL ! longship May 2013 #29

Awesome trailer! A Little Weird May 2013 #42

Check out their other ones. They are great ejpoeta May 2013 #44

Tan mom! neverforget May 2013 #46

I saw it yesterday. I liked it. But then again, I'm a big fan of recycling. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #7

I liked it. Behind the Aegis May 2013 #9

The title is about going to Cheney's "dark side" The Blue Flower May 2013 #10

I dunno, that message was kinda too obvious as in kid after school special obvious. Pholus May 2013 #14

I feel the same way deutsey May 2013 #15

A remake of 'The Wrath of Khan'? WTF? I was disappointed, too. randome May 2013 #19

Aren't Spock and Kirk one person cut in two anyhow? Brain vs. Brawn. graham4anything May 2013 #21

Yeah, they always counterbalanced each other deutsey May 2013 #23

There is one critical difference between New and Old Kirk. Pholus May 2013 #25

Good point deutsey May 2013 #30

That's a good way to think about it....thanks! :) nt Pholus May 2013 #35

agree 100%. graham4anything May 2013 #34

Going this Friday, took the day off, long weekend DainBramaged May 2013 #32

Saw it yesterday (SPOILERS!!!) JoDog May 2013 #33

Agree--- trumad May 2013 #37

You got me thinking that the entire film was about the right/wrong ambiguity lindysalsagal May 2013 #38

That scene did not make sense to me at all. It was too 'easy' to contact the older Spock. randome May 2013 #39

I think you're reading what you want to into it WeekendWarrior May 2013 #40

I saw the movie yesterday A Little Weird May 2013 #45

I LOVED the movie - some of the best 3D and CGI jazzimov May 2013 #47

Just got done watching it. redgreenandblue May 2013 #49