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KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
63. Vox Populi...The "People" Don't Mind The Money...
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 08:42 AM
Feb 2012

How often do people discuss campaign finance reform in a serious vein? The last time in my memory was in 1975 in the fallout of Watergate and that was just a speedbump on a superhighway of elections ruled by money. Not only don't the candidates want to disarm (and I'd bet Mr. Reich, no matter how I respect his principals and expertise, would take any and all money if it was his career/office on the line or be another Feingold...retired) the electorate appears not to either. Most times the candidate who spends the most...floods the "public" airwaves the most wins. Over the years campaigning has gone from touting your own candidate's strengths to a battle of attrition to destroy your opponent in as many 30 second bites as you can. This is the political status quo 2012 and other than those of us on this side of the political sandbox a vast majority of Americans either could care less about Citizens United or favored it. We are where we are...not where Mr. Reich wishes we were and as long as people don't care how much money is thrown into elections by rewarding those who spend the most with power we'll see even more money on the line in the future.

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Unforthunately 1ProudAtheist Feb 2012 #1
yes indeed flamingdem Feb 2012 #15
Complete bullsh*t bowens43 Feb 2012 #2
Best ProSense Feb 2012 #3
thanks for posting that here! JNelson6563 Feb 2012 #18
K & R! lonestarnot Feb 2012 #43
! AtomicKitten Feb 2012 #50
Brilliant post. The people who support the OP are nuts. vaberella Feb 2012 #54
"But would refusing to be corrupted this way really amount to unilateral disarmament?" Yes. Duh. TheWraith Feb 2012 #4
I trust Robert Reich Obama3_16 Feb 2012 #5
Yeah, um, right BeyondGeography Feb 2012 #6
fighting fire with fire warrior1 Feb 2012 #7
Kahuna: The sad saga of Robert Reich's continuous whining... Kahuna Feb 2012 #8
"Does anything make him happy?" Not unless there's a Clinton in the WH. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #51
Exactly! He's a sad little PUMA. Kahuna Feb 2012 #52
I hear ad hominem attacks on internet message boards make him happy, LOL just1voice Feb 2012 #69
Did President Obama have to officially endorse the Super Pac? bvar22 Feb 2012 #9
Obama didn't endorse the "new normal" as you call it. SCOTUS Kahuna Feb 2012 #10
Dramatic much? Robert Reich's fortune telling ability aside, refusing to take PAC money when renie408 Feb 2012 #11
that's what I don't get about the whiners. Whisp Feb 2012 #28
I don't think he wants Obama to be President. n/t vaberella Feb 2012 #55
BINGO!! nt Kahuna Feb 2012 #58
And you are obviously very confused, bvar22 Feb 2012 #67
loyal to what? I am supposing you are talking about Reich Whisp Feb 2012 #68
Actually I think you're the one confused. vaberella Feb 2012 #71
I wonder which moneyed interests will get to be highest bidder? Dragonfli Feb 2012 #61
great! we can spend our money on liberal/progressive candidates lower down ballot instead of O nt msongs Feb 2012 #12
You were going to do that anyway, weren't you?... SidDithers Feb 2012 #17
*snort Whisp Feb 2012 #29
the koch brothers will spend their fortunes to destroy Obama, he'd be a fool not to have an s/pac spanone Feb 2012 #13
Reich needs to get a clue. bluestate10 Feb 2012 #14
Easy for Reich to write that... SidDithers Feb 2012 #16
Yep, and if the winger won the WH JNelson6563 Feb 2012 #20
Yes ... Obama should disarm himself so that after GOP Super PACs win the election ... JoePhilly Feb 2012 #19
fuck the 'bring a knife to a gun fight' crowd grantcart Feb 2012 #21
Damn right... SidDithers Feb 2012 #23
lol grantcart Feb 2012 #70
+1!! renie408 Feb 2012 #24
45 state victory Obama3_16 Feb 2012 #25
There is ProSense Feb 2012 #32
x10000000000 boxman15 Feb 2012 #42
Amen!! uponit7771 Feb 2012 #37
HOLLER! Kahuna Feb 2012 #53
Sorry guy, Presidential elections are life and death decisions anymore. TwilightGardener Feb 2012 #22
"They do it, so we do it" is a piss poor excuse for corruption. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2012 #26
I agree, the oposite is a piss poor excuse to lose to the bastards who are in the GOP now uponit7771 Feb 2012 #38
Two corporate parties rudycantfail Feb 2012 #27
I think what has become of America is Whisp Feb 2012 #30
I want you to feel free rudycantfail Feb 2012 #31
This is why I am sitting this one out alarimer Feb 2012 #35
Obama wants to have it both ways. hay rick Feb 2012 #33
Obama WANTED all the SP money? Link and quote? thx uponit7771 Feb 2012 #40
WANTED...reluctantly agreed...the bottom line is the same. hay rick Feb 2012 #46
You know who you can thank for this new stratagem, don't you? Major Hogwash Feb 2012 #65
Are Super PACs still a threat to democracy? Karmadillo Feb 2012 #34
Why are you responding to yourself?...nt SidDithers Feb 2012 #39
Why are you responding to me? Karmadillo Feb 2012 #45
No, they are a great Democratic weapon now! They are good now, Obama said so. Dragonfli Feb 2012 #62
Complete balony, Obama had to adapt to the new political reality ShadowLiberal Feb 2012 #36
The devil made me do it. rudycantfail Feb 2012 #44
Reich is wrong here. boxman15 Feb 2012 #41
It's just too difficult a task rudycantfail Feb 2012 #47
Reich wants Obama to prove a point,but lose an election? Swede Feb 2012 #48
Will he get a LOGO jacket from pack supporters like in NASCAR? Dragonfli Feb 2012 #49
This strikes me as faith-based rather than evidence-based. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2012 #56
How dare he mmonk Feb 2012 #57
What good does it do to stand on principle when the other guy is standing on... renie408 Feb 2012 #59
Reich is right, MadHound Feb 2012 #60
Vox Populi...The "People" Don't Mind The Money... KharmaTrain Feb 2012 #63
In his heart, he believes in the power of money kentuck Feb 2012 #64
Unrec. You want Obama to enter the race with one leg tied behind his back? FSogol Feb 2012 #66
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