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jeff47

(26,549 posts)
5. Frost. Or lack thereof.
Tue May 21, 2013, 12:16 AM
May 2013

There is a "frost line". This is the depth to which the ground freezes in winter. Frozen ground expands, and can push the foundation of a house right out of the ground. The foundation of a house has to be built deeper than the frost line, so that the foundation stays where it's supposed to be.

The frost line in New England is at about 8 feet. If you already have to dig down 8 feet for the foundation, digging a basement doesn't add much of an expense. So virtually every house in New England has a basement.

The frost line in Los Angeles is at 0 feet - it never freezes. So foundations were traditionally only about 2 feet deep. So digging down 8 to 10 feet to put in a basement adds a lot of cost to a house. (In the past few decades, foundations in Los Angeles have gotten deeper and more complex to handle earthquakes, but they're still only around 4 feet deep). As a result, virtually no house in Los Angeles has a basement.

The frost line in Oklahoma City is about 18", so foundations should be around 3 feet deep. So digging a basement would add a lot of cost.

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I suspect it depends upon the geology of the region, tradition, the economics... NRaleighLiberal May 2013 #1
as others have pointed out, a lot of places there is limestone, or other rock. other areas, the niyad May 2013 #2
Oklahoma sits on an aquifer and has a high water table - basements flood! TheDebbieDee May 2013 #3
So we don't end up with out kids living in them and on Free Republic all the time! n/t brewens May 2013 #4
I'm trying to be serious. Western PA does get tornados from time to time. We are always diabeticman May 2013 #9
Frost. Or lack thereof. jeff47 May 2013 #5
thank you this is helpful for me to understand diabeticman May 2013 #10
No basements dem in texas May 2013 #6
Pacific Northwest has basements. grasswire May 2013 #7
many of which smell like mold and dry rot 0rganism May 2013 #16
The Weather Channel was wrong justcommenting May 2013 #20
Most houses like in Dallas/Houston are built on concrete slab foundations... Tx4obama May 2013 #8
Mostly slabs here, too GoCubsGo May 2013 #11
We have one. X_Digger May 2013 #12
No, because they're cheap to build. n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #18
Why not at least a small storm shelter? Doesn't have to be a full TwilightGardener May 2013 #13
I live on the Texas Gulf Coast. Llewlladdwr May 2013 #14
Fatal tornados are extremely rare events. Average of 40 a year. n-t Logical May 2013 #15
Real estate developers and corrupt politicians. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #17
Money Retrograde May 2013 #19
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