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RobertEarl

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53. Last two years have shown extremes

Tue May 21, 2013, 01:49 AM

May 2013

This March, 2013, was about the coolest ever in US
Last year's March was about the warmest March ever.
From one extreme to the other in one year.

Last year the Mississippi was about as dry as ever.
This year it was flooding about as much as ever.
From one extreme to the other in one year.

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We are absolutely seeing the results of climate change [View all] Hugabear May 2013 OP

Climate change is a problem....but this particular event does NOT represent any pattern whatsoever. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author XemaSab May 2013 #3

The OP didn't say one event was a pattern --but since you're constructing a straw man of her post CreekDog May 2013 #4

This had nothing to do with XemaSab. What in the FUCK are you blathering on about, CD? AverageJoe90 May 2013 #10

You making a straw man of her post and misrepresenting what it said (sometimes called "lying") CreekDog May 2013 #11

Where do you think that I was attacking her here?(i.e. where's the proof?) AverageJoe90 May 2013 #17

You were misrepresenting the OP to make it easier to argue against CreekDog May 2013 #27

That wasn't true and you damn well know it. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #35

i didn't accuse you of stalking, i accused you of serial obfuscation on climate CreekDog May 2013 #38

"Concern troll".....Look who's talking, ya hypocrite. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #42

oh? which topic am I concern trolling DU on? CreekDog May 2013 #43

Just about every other post that criticizes "doomster" B.S., that's all. n/t AverageJoe90 May 2013 #46

i didn't imply you were concern trolling on climate change CreekDog May 2013 #45

No, that isn't what I was referring to, and you know it. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #48

yes you did it to the OP not Xema, I wrote the wrong name CreekDog May 2013 #50

Sure as hell took you forever to correct that mistake, though..... AverageJoe90 May 2013 #51

it took me 16 minutes after you pointed out my error CreekDog May 2013 #54

It MAY or MAY NOT represent a pattern. joshcryer May 2013 #29

well yeah, either he doesn't know he's making contradictory arguments CreekDog May 2013 #31

Neither of these is true, and you know it. n/t AverageJoe90 May 2013 #32

Josh, I've been watching the weather ALL year. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #36

Hang in there Joe... defacto7 May 2013 #57

He's a minimizer. joshcryer May 2013 #63

Which is simply not true.....Never was to begin with, either. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #71

I'm not going to dig up old threads. joshcryer May 2013 #81

Yeah. Thanks, man. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #70

There is plenty of evidence. joshcryer May 2013 #65

I blame the repukes regardless flamingdem May 2013 #2

especially after the 1999 tornado there Skittles May 2013 #8

exactly! flamingdem May 2013 #12

Pertinent Tweets.. on what you're saying, Hugabear Cha May 2013 #5

re: the second tweet laundry_queen May 2013 #28

Very much more intense, laundry queen.. "How to Understand the Scale of Today's OK Tornado" Cha May 2013 #33

Interesting read. laundry_queen May 2013 #52

thank you for that additional valuable info, lq Cha May 2013 #55

If someone told me we'd be seeing 2 MILE wide tornadoes this soon... joshcryer May 2013 #30

2-mile wide tornadoes were possible LONG before this century, Josh, that's the problem. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #37

The earliest recorded incidence of a tornado this large was 1968. joshcryer May 2013 #62

That may be true, but we've only had good tornado science since the late '50s, though. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #66

I esablised the data isn't that good, actually. joshcryer May 2013 #83

Which models are you referring to, btw? n/t AverageJoe90 May 2013 #87

Those in post #29 which you obviously didn't read. joshcryer May 2013 #92

Josh, the problem is, while these are solid models, they did NOT disprove my original point. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #93

Senator Inhofe of Oklahoma would disagree with you young_at_heart May 2013 #6

not if it interferes with busine$$ as usual Skittles May 2013 #15

Amen to that! n/t AverageJoe90 May 2013 #19

yes, more extreme weather is common to the trends they are predicting CreekDog May 2013 #7

Well, not so much more extreme weather, really, but rather, more extreme variation in occurrences. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #13

Wait until the "new" jet stream snaps off a little loop right over your house. DCKit May 2013 #25

That Derecho was something rightsideout May 2013 #84

Ouch. Sorry, man. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #86

We know no such thing Yo_Mama May 2013 #9

Very true indeed. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #14

Yes, we know that 1) climate change is occuring and 2) this event cannot be separated from climate CreekDog May 2013 #24

Yes, it can be separated, actually. Nobody can argue otherwise, for now. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #39

Truly... 2naSalit May 2013 #16

Some of those clumps are migrating birds XemaSab May 2013 #95

It's going to be an interesting summer... and not in a good way. nt DCKit May 2013 #18

We are dreading it nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #21

Maybe so. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #22

It fits all predictions of more extreme weather nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #20

Well, not so much more extremes, as in VARIATIONS of said extremes, in this case, TBH. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #23

I am talking of the predictions. nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #26

Go vegan! (if it's not too inconvenient for you, love, considering) flvegan May 2013 #34

Any good vegan recipes out there, by the way? n/t AverageJoe90 May 2013 #40

This is why people don't take us seriously. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #41

Yeah. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #44

Are not tornados caused when cold applegrove May 2013 #47

Something does seem to be a little off this year. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #49

Last two years have shown extremes RobertEarl May 2013 #53

Very strange indeed, TBH. But..... AverageJoe90 May 2013 #56

Extremes are what was predicted RobertEarl May 2013 #60

When I was a kid (60's-70's) our climate was predictable. DCKit May 2013 #88

The atmosphere has been altered RobertEarl May 2013 #89

Which side are you on? Climate change or deniers? DCKit May 2013 #90

Really? RobertEarl May 2013 #91

climate is the average of weather you know... CreekDog May 2013 #61

This is nothing compared to whats coming. So lets just think about it some more. ErikJ May 2013 #58

I'm not quite so sure of that. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #64

HA! You must be a Koch brother undercover agent. ErikJ May 2013 #69

Haha, LOL. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #74

I know the Koch bros. tactics. I dont trust ANY apologists. ErikJ May 2013 #75

Oh, so you were serious.....that's a shame. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #76

Yeah, SUUUURE! ErikJ May 2013 #78

I read this article on NPR today, thought it was too early to post as an OP: Rhiannon12866 May 2013 #59

But the science is unclear and not settled. There is still room for debate. You must accept my side Nanjing to Seoul May 2013 #67

Well..... AverageJoe90 May 2013 #72

No, I was satirizing the people who will say it's not climate change. The deniers. I completely Nanjing to Seoul May 2013 #77

Who's Gawwwd? 1ProudAtheist May 2013 #80

My Gawwd. . .he has a bigger shwantz than all those other Gawwds!!!! Nanjing to Seoul May 2013 #82

lets face it MFM008 May 2013 #68

Certainly seems like it. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #73

Storms Like This Drop Out Of A Hook Echo Formation DallasNE May 2013 #79

We won't be seeing 25-mile wide tornados, though(5 miles might be a different story, though) AverageJoe90 May 2013 #85

We sure are and the climate deniers are either gopiscrap May 2013 #94