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In reply to the discussion: We are absolutely seeing the results of climate change [View all]AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)93. Josh, the problem is, while these are solid models, they did NOT disprove my original point.
Yes, while it IS true that more energy is forecast to be in the atmosphere as the globe warms, these models did NOT disprove my original point, which was that this one particular event cannot be necessarily solidly linked with climate change.
When I am wrong I admit it. When I post something misleading (not intentionally), I admit it (say my recollection of something is wrong but has the spirit of the original information).
Josh, this is unfortunately NOT true, in regards between you and I. I won't speak about other situations, but during your arguments with me, you've only RARELY admitted when you're wrong when dealing with this stuff. I, on the other hand, HAVE actually backtracked on the few occasions where it was necessary to do so.
I swear, when you claim to know something or to have some information I don't know about, honest to fuck don't think you fact-check your own words.
I do. And so far, I haven't been wrong more than a few times.
I may not be a genius but internet searches can quickly falsify my own beliefs
And I've had to retract things, too.
In that event you wind up saying stuff that you believe rather than what is true.
That's funny. I could have sworn you had had that exact same issue with me.
Except, I have models, and in that case you have to show how those models are wrong. You don't, ergo you are fucking wrong.
The problem is, again, the models you have, while they are good pieces of research, didn't disprove my point that this particular solitary can't be solidly linked with climate change. Now, of course, climate change could conceivably make events like this one more common(unfortunately), as the models you linked did point out. But my point DOES still stand.
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Climate change is a problem....but this particular event does NOT represent any pattern whatsoever.
AverageJoe90
May 2013
#1
The OP didn't say one event was a pattern --but since you're constructing a straw man of her post
CreekDog
May 2013
#4
This had nothing to do with XemaSab. What in the FUCK are you blathering on about, CD?
AverageJoe90
May 2013
#10
You making a straw man of her post and misrepresenting what it said (sometimes called "lying")
CreekDog
May 2013
#11
Where do you think that I was attacking her here?(i.e. where's the proof?)
AverageJoe90
May 2013
#17
i didn't accuse you of stalking, i accused you of serial obfuscation on climate
CreekDog
May 2013
#38
Just about every other post that criticizes "doomster" B.S., that's all. n/t
AverageJoe90
May 2013
#46
Very much more intense, laundry queen.. "How to Understand the Scale of Today's OK Tornado"
Cha
May 2013
#33
2-mile wide tornadoes were possible LONG before this century, Josh, that's the problem.
AverageJoe90
May 2013
#37
That may be true, but we've only had good tornado science since the late '50s, though.
AverageJoe90
May 2013
#66
Josh, the problem is, while these are solid models, they did NOT disprove my original point.
AverageJoe90
May 2013
#93
Well, not so much more extreme weather, really, but rather, more extreme variation in occurrences.
AverageJoe90
May 2013
#13
Yes, we know that 1) climate change is occuring and 2) this event cannot be separated from climate
CreekDog
May 2013
#24
Well, not so much more extremes, as in VARIATIONS of said extremes, in this case, TBH.
AverageJoe90
May 2013
#23
I read this article on NPR today, thought it was too early to post as an OP:
Rhiannon12866
May 2013
#59
But the science is unclear and not settled. There is still room for debate. You must accept my side
Nanjing to Seoul
May 2013
#67
No, I was satirizing the people who will say it's not climate change. The deniers. I completely
Nanjing to Seoul
May 2013
#77
We won't be seeing 25-mile wide tornados, though(5 miles might be a different story, though)
AverageJoe90
May 2013
#85