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zipplewrath

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38. Been designed since WWII

Tue May 21, 2013, 11:33 AM

May 2013

The above ground "bunker" has been around since WWII at the very least. It consists mostly of poured concrete and some dirt piled on top. This ain't rocket science. It is really a form of complacency from familiarity. Tornadoes have been ravaging the area for centuries, and people have come accustom to the repeated disaster. It makes people stop asking "can we do anything about it".

Japan and San Francisco both finally started asking those questions about earthquakes. At first it seemed "impossible". And really, the first attempts were less than totally successful. But over time we've engineered better and better building methods such that it is VERY noticeable when an earth quake hits an area that has not incorporated these kinds of building codes.

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