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onpatrol98

(1,989 posts)
16. I would believe that.
Tue May 21, 2013, 10:43 AM
May 2013

I believe that. I mean if you think about it. Some people can find offense ANYWHERE. Some others will never be offended. No matter what he says. But, I think most people, if they were honest, can't find much to gripe about in his speeches. Especially, if you ignore the partisan nitpicking that the right does.

I usually enjoy his speeches. I think they're thoughtful. I don't think he makes gaffes. I think he puts a lot of thought and reflection into anything he says. However, it hasn't been lost on me that he spends more time talking about personal responsibility when he talks to black audiences than when he (for instance) speaks with a Hispanic audience or when he's in another more diverse setting.

I think he's in an awkward situation. I remember when he told black lawmakers to "quit complaining".

http://thegrio.com/2011/09/26/obama-cant-win-when-he-addresses-black-audiences/

Well, for all I know, they really were complaining. But, I could bet you $100 (unfortunately, I'm broke so you wouldn't get it), he wouldn't have told a group of Hispanic lawmakers to quit complaining. Sometimes people have really good reasons to complain. But, also, people would have dressed him down for it pretty quickly. Not to mention, I just don't think it would have ever occurred to him to say it.

I guess I'm saying I know where the sentiment is coming from. I don't think it benefits us to be hyper sensitive. I think we should be willing to give the President the benefit of the doubt. He's a thoughtful man, but he's not a perfect man. And, I don't think most of us expect him to be.

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He is the one who broke through that ultimate barrier treestar May 2013 #1
women are over half the population Skittles May 2013 #54
Of course, it's an out of context quote from a "journalist" Here's the WHOLE statement uponit7771 May 2013 #2
". . . and instead of working alongside of them, you'll be competing with them . . . HughBeaumont May 2013 #7
whose eddie? leftyohiolib May 2013 #18
It's from "Ed Wood". HughBeaumont May 2013 #24
"It's HORSESHIT, Eddie." = +100. as is obama's speech. "nobody's going to give you anything HiPointDem May 2013 #31
Man, that last sentence agitates me. OneGrassRoot May 2013 #25
That is RW thinking. Far too like the "captain of my ship", "I make my luck" BS. winter is coming May 2013 #28
word. n/t OneGrassRoot May 2013 #29
Disagree. Bobbie Jo May 2013 #33
Good point. OneGrassRoot May 2013 #36
I beg to differ ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2013 #55
May I ask... OneGrassRoot May 2013 #59
Yes, I can ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2013 #63
Thank you for the reply. :) OneGrassRoot May 2013 #65
Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2013 #66
lol... OneGrassRoot May 2013 #67
Those taking that approach ohheckyeah May 2013 #71
True ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2013 #72
I've read, in a site I respect, that African American unemployment is higher now than when 0bama byeya May 2013 #3
this administration has presided over the devastation of poor black communities and the gutting HiPointDem May 2013 #32
What exactly Bobbie Jo May 2013 #34
these ones. HiPointDem May 2013 #35
You're linking to unemployment rates Bobbie Jo May 2013 #38
i'm talking about the fact that black unemployment increased more, for longer, than white HiPointDem May 2013 #51
True, but just wondering, why did you type a zero alp227 May 2013 #46
I wonder why people are quoting Obama as saying "no *longer* time for excuses" Nye Bevan May 2013 #4
One simple word changes the tone completely... SidDithers May 2013 #14
I'll Give You ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2013 #50
So I guess the fact that unemployment among African American males Chisox08 May 2013 #5
I swing both ways zipplewrath May 2013 #19
If that's what a person thinks that's their fate. dkf May 2013 #23
Unemployment is tied to high school graduation. former9thward May 2013 #26
It's not the teachers it's our current mayor who said that. Chisox08 May 2013 #30
When did he say young AA males would "never amount to anything"? former9thward May 2013 #39
In a conversaation with CTU President Karin Lewis before the teacher strike Chisox08 May 2013 #42
Were you part of the conversation? former9thward May 2013 #43
Here it is Chisox08 May 2013 #44
Thanks for the link. former9thward May 2013 #45
I trust Mrs. Lewis a whole hell of alot more the Emanuel. Chisox08 May 2013 #47
And incarceration rates, and .... 1StrongBlackMan May 2013 #56
President Bill Cosby. The Link May 2013 #6
That's a Cozzzz-bee speech Cirque du So-What May 2013 #15
LOL +1 leftstreet May 2013 #41
Did he say "no time for excuses" or "no longer time for excuses"? gollygee May 2013 #8
He says 2 variations of the line. hughee99 May 2013 #10
Continues popular meme onpatrol98 May 2013 #9
I'm in agreement on the speech being fine if the audience found it appropriate, hughee99 May 2013 #11
Jesse was just wrong... onpatrol98 May 2013 #17
I attended a speech at another HBCU, and there was never a single statement Blue_Tires May 2013 #12
I would believe that. onpatrol98 May 2013 #16
Good post. I think this falls under his meme of "We have more work to do" R B Garr May 2013 #22
POTUS is 100% correct. n/t greytdemocrat May 2013 #13
Neither his ancestors, his parent, nor he himself share the American Black experience. WinkyDink May 2013 #20
Thank you.... Deuce May 2013 #27
So he's not black and he's not American. Fuck that asinine bullshit. DevonRex May 2013 #37
much of black experience is based on what others see and treat you as when they see you JI7 May 2013 #40
Black Experience onpatrol98 May 2013 #53
He did as a community organizer in Chicago ... kwassa May 2013 #52
It's not the same... onpatrol98 May 2013 #60
I agree it is not the same. kwassa May 2013 #73
Great and thoughtful post! onpatrol98 May 2013 #74
It's a graduation speech olddots May 2013 #21
true...there should be a rule onpatrol98 May 2013 #61
Remarks by the President at Morehouse College Commencement Ceremony FarCenter May 2013 #48
Serious Question ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2013 #49
Yep...familiar with that message. onpatrol98 May 2013 #62
Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2013 #64
So ok, fine, but don't we all make excuses for ourselves? What is new in that human behavior? MichiganVote May 2013 #57
Nothing is new in that human behavior, you're right. onpatrol98 May 2013 #70
No more excuses? mick063 May 2013 #58
Offensiveness aside, I'm thinking that there are some students & faculty over at Howard Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #68
Wrongs not right just because Obama says it is... Larry Ogg May 2013 #69
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