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wercal

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234. Yes I called you emotional

Tue May 21, 2013, 02:31 PM

May 2013

'Rant off' and angry emoticons, along with manifesto type screeds give it away. I catch on to things like that.

You haven't proved anything (see post 230 for real math). And, this has not been a debate at all. Rather, you are trying to manipulate data to get the result you want...poorly (again see post 230 for a small sample of math).

Now one thing has me gravely concerned. Your quote:

"Its simple algebra"

What in the heck are they teaching you at Texas? You are supposedly a math major, and you think multiplication and division are Algebra? I hate to tell you, but no Algebra has been performed on this thread today.

Seriously. A refund. You deserve it.

And I challenge you to answer my question in post 230. How would you interpret the data? What would be the best way to reduce dog bites?

I know you won't answer.

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Remember that woman in rural LA county who was killed by a pack of dogs last week? [View all] baldguy May 2013 OP

Correct me if I am wrong but she is still dead and was killed by pits CBGLuthier May 2013 #1

Yep iwillalwayswonderwhy May 2013 #2

Whoosh. uppityperson May 2013 #23

What? iwillalwayswonderwhy May 2013 #103

Way to pile on the poor bastard Floyd_Gondolli May 2013 #21

Because he allowed his dogs to kill someone. nt ladjf May 2013 #207

The guy who owned the dogs was a drug dealer, who was arrested. baldguy May 2013 #210

I was referring to the dogs owner of course. His occupation is irrelevant to what I would ladjf May 2013 #214

She was killed by a drug dealer. baldguy May 2013 #27

Exactly. The same if the drug dealer had shot her. It would be a people problem, hughee99 May 2013 #60

No, that would be a gun problem ... oldhippie May 2013 #127

really the dogs were drug dealers as well as vicious animals? bowens43 May 2013 #81

Who were owned, trained, abused **AND ALLOWED TO ROAM THE NEIGHBORHOOD** by a drug dealer. baldguy May 2013 #88

IMO a dog attack should be considered to have been inflicted by the owner Orrex May 2013 #92

It differs because... Mr. X May 2013 #170

Well... Orrex May 2013 #179

Like guns ... GeorgeGist May 2013 #3

No they don't Drale May 2013 #56

Guns and pit bulls kill people. kwassa May 2013 #192

Another pitbull post. bunnies May 2013 #4

edit - never mind (nt) Nine May 2013 #6

we can read your edits. plenty are started by those looking to stir shit. PeaceNikki May 2013 #76

Does shit stirring mean replying to a self-deleted post? Nine May 2013 #101

you didn't delete, you edited. PeaceNikki May 2013 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author uppityperson May 2013 #106

You can't reply to a self deleted post. uppityperson May 2013 #108

I personally think 5 threads in 5 days by 1 person on 1 topic is excessive. (nt) Nine May 2013 #120

I personally think re-posting something the jury hid should be bannable. By those measures, you'd be PeaceNikki May 2013 #124

Did they really do that? uppityperson May 2013 #129

Yes, a few times, in fact. PeaceNikki May 2013 #131

DU is such a place. uppityperson May 2013 #133

No I did not. Nine May 2013 #143

If the jury hides your post and you repost it elsewhere, that's poor form. Any idiot can figure that PeaceNikki May 2013 #145

Because ther are a small minority of people on DU who want to eradicate Pit Bulls. baldguy May 2013 #28

Where were you when these breeds went extinct? randome May 2013 #31

I looked at the first few on that list and I wasn't around in the 1800s. uppityperson May 2013 #110

Then how do you address bad owners? randome May 2013 #155

How about a compromise? Shankapotomus May 2013 #38

I don't think those traits were ever intentionally bred *out*. Marr May 2013 #75

Okay, intentionally or not Shankapotomus May 2013 #78

That presupposes these dogs are different from any other dogs. baldguy May 2013 #141

That being your position Shankapotomus May 2013 #175

You're making the same assumption: that Pit Bulls are different. They're not. baldguy May 2013 #177

Why does one dog look any different than another? maxsolomon May 2013 #180

I have no reason to presume Shankapotomus May 2013 #181

No, no, no. Pit bulls do not belong in the wild. They need love and family. cui bono May 2013 #195

Excellent point. And, the truth lies in the trends of deadly dog attacks, right? Buzz Clik May 2013 #5

Well, that settles that. The dogs did no harm, after all. TheCowsCameHome May 2013 #7

I was mugged by an Algerian man. All Algerian men are dangerous. See? uppityperson May 2013 #10

I'd say that dogs have a lot more invested in instinct than people do. Not a good analogy, IMO. randome May 2013 #13

Of course you don't think it is a good analogy. Try:Black people needed to be kept as slaves because uppityperson May 2013 #17

Racist analogies are bad when they're applied to people. baldguy May 2013 #90

Dog breeds were created for specific purposes XemaSab May 2013 #182

And the oldest & **MOST IMPORTANT** purpose all dogs were bred for, starting from 30,000 yrs ago baldguy May 2013 #187

Right Shankapotomus May 2013 #14

Because lions have never been domesticated. Dogs... (ALL dogs) come from domesticated stock. TalkingDog May 2013 #18

Then maybe pitulls should be Shankapotomus May 2013 #24

Oh, yes... that seems to work out very well. Roaming packs of dogs. PeaceNikki May 2013 #42

What do you think wolves are? Shankapotomus May 2013 #46

A dog is not a lion or a submarine. Marriage equality means people will marry their dogs so let's be uppityperson May 2013 #22

So can I have a pet lion? nt Shankapotomus May 2013 #26

Purple. eom uppityperson May 2013 #49

Okay so Shankapotomus May 2013 #73

Personally, I prefer cheesecake over pie. nt uppityperson May 2013 #105

And since there is no way to force people to be more responsible... randome May 2013 #8

You've never heard of licensing & registration? baldguy May 2013 #32

None of that has worked so far, has it? randome May 2013 #37

I could be the most irresponsible dog owner in the world (I'm not, by the way) Bake May 2013 #9

Your venting against people who have the right to their opinion rustydog May 2013 #11

The dog haters "opinion" includes offering "solutions" to a problem which won't solve the problem. baldguy May 2013 #36

Okay. Define 'suffering'. Who will suffer if pit bulls are banned? randome May 2013 #40

Then can I have a pet tiger now? Nt Shankapotomus May 2013 #12

Only if you let it play with Baldguy's pit bulls on Wednesdays! randome May 2013 #16

Your obsession with this topic is pretty strange. Sheldon Cooper May 2013 #15

People can disagree, but passing breed specific legislation is wrong. Like being anti-choice on DU uppityperson May 2013 #20

Yes, you have a point about passing legislation. I understand the concern. Sheldon Cooper May 2013 #25

What is the definitions of "dangerous dog"? uppityperson May 2013 #30

That's your opinion. 99Forever May 2013 #157

Advocating anti-choice legislation is not allowed. Trying to educate people about BSL is right uppityperson May 2013 #161

Oh please. 99Forever May 2013 #166

There are people on this board who want to kill a member of my family. baldguy May 2013 #44

Absolutely no one wants to take your pets away from you. randome May 2013 #50

Yes they do. baldguy May 2013 #85

'Ban', to me, is not the same thing as 'confiscate'. randome May 2013 #99

Then keep it leashed and don't let it roam. TheCowsCameHome May 2013 #84

I don't want anything to do HappyMe May 2013 #87

In the eyes of the law... 99Forever May 2013 #160

Do you make this same comment to all of the threads on the topic with which you agree? PeaceNikki May 2013 #47

Dog haters? HappyMe May 2013 #19

+ 1,000,000 clarice May 2013 #43

This is actually one of my "pet" peeves. clarice May 2013 #29

Where does Jon Stewart fit into your 2 categories? I am curious. uppityperson May 2013 #33

Why ? did he bite someone?. nt clarice May 2013 #39

He owns several. Or were you just talking those who can't handle the dog, in which case it fits uppityperson May 2013 #45

No he owns 3 pit bulls. So now what? Rex May 2013 #52

I think many equate 'ban' with 'confiscation'. randome May 2013 #53

Sure ya do, you hate the breed. Rex May 2013 #59

Way to not address the point I made. randome May 2013 #63

Right keep telling yourself that. Rex May 2013 #66

Me either, I think we are barking up the wrong tree. nt clarice May 2013 #68

Please don't report Randome to the PBDL. Pit Bull Defense league. clarice May 2013 #65

Thank you! randome May 2013 #70

lol. You're welcome. that looks like a vicious cat. nt clarice May 2013 #74

So now you should chill......jeeesh. nt clarice May 2013 #54

All I did was call you out for your asinine post. Rex May 2013 #61

Oh !!! now I get it. Your handle is "Rex". lol. nt clarice May 2013 #69

(with exception of course) nt jmg257 May 2013 #41

Thanks for the back up. Do you ever get the feeling.... clarice May 2013 #57

Why all you did was make an embarrassing post that shows your vast Rex May 2013 #64

That has to be the saddest post I've seen yet about this subject. Rex May 2013 #67

A back window sticker on a pickup truck I saw a couple of weeks ago. randome May 2013 #35

Your "facts" aren't facts at all. baldguy May 2013 #51

offensive to pit bulls ?!!??. nt clarice May 2013 #55

"Gangstas"? "Rednecks"? baldguy May 2013 #93

OMG ! Gimme a break!. too funny. clarice May 2013 #97

I dont think a pack of dachsunds would have created the same situation. boomer55 May 2013 #34

Sounds like you mean size matters. Not breed but size. uppityperson May 2013 #114

There's a subset of "banners", just like there's a subset of "the breed is innocenters" maxsolomon May 2013 #48

The people that want to exterminate the pit bull breed are no better than Rex May 2013 #58

I'd trust a Dalek before a pit-bull hater Drale May 2013 #62

Hmmm...good point. Rex May 2013 #71

A Dalek is only 27% as dangerous as a pit bull. True fact. Orrex May 2013 #86

so the husband saying this make it "the truth" - perhaps someone is a bit too close to this issue DrDan May 2013 #72

how about the ASPCA opinion on BSL? PeaceNikki May 2013 #77

they do - and state that pits are more agressive than other breeds DrDan May 2013 #83

They do not. PeaceNikki May 2013 #91

from the ASPCA DrDan May 2013 #94

You understand that is in context to fighting OTHER DOGS, not people, right? PeaceNikki May 2013 #98

I see - so that aggression is never directed toward people - got it . . . DrDan May 2013 #164

Lots of qualifiers undermine your "are more" statement. uppityperson May 2013 #115

NO ONE was implying pits are ALWAYS more agressive DrDan May 2013 #165

no breed bans Progressive dog May 2013 #79

You know what... wercal May 2013 #80

Shocked that it took this long for someone to post a link to that bullshit site whose data has been PeaceNikki May 2013 #82

Ok...I'll Bite (see what I did there) wercal May 2013 #104

Did you lose your Google CD ROM? PeaceNikki May 2013 #119

So you've got nuthin' wercal May 2013 #125

It's all been posted here on DU... again AD NAUSEUM. I am not your fucking research bitch. PeaceNikki May 2013 #130

So you've got nothing wercal May 2013 #134

Keep telling yourself that, chief. PeaceNikki May 2013 #135

Geez, you act like I made it up or its black magic wercal May 2013 #140

Here you go, go back to the gungeon. PeaceNikki May 2013 #142

You know wercal May 2013 #151

The gungeon is your favorite group, per your profile PeaceNikki May 2013 #159

Ok, these are threads I've found in 'Latest Threads' wercal May 2013 #167

DogBite.org is an anti-Pit Bull propaganda site. Anything from it is full of shit. baldguy May 2013 #96

You dispute their data wercal May 2013 #109

Go to that sites fatatlities stats LostOne4Ever May 2013 #184

Can you link to the dogsbite.org page with the disclaimer you're talking about? Nine May 2013 #188

Here you go LostOne4Ever May 2013 #190

You're claiming that pit bulls "outnumber all the other dogs by 2-100x"? Nine May 2013 #202

OF THE DOGS LISTED LostOne4Ever May 2013 #204

Still not following your math. Nine May 2013 #217

He doesn't understand statistics wercal May 2013 #220

Considering LostOne4Ever May 2013 #224

Color me not impressed wercal May 2013 #225

I guess facts dont impress you at all LostOne4Ever May 2013 #231

Yes I called you emotional wercal May 2013 #234

Here is the math LostOne4Ever May 2013 #222

That's complete gibberish. Nine May 2013 #226

What is gibberish LostOne4Ever May 2013 #228

See post 230 to learn how to do math wercal May 2013 #233

All the math in the world doesn't fix bad initial assumptions wercal May 2013 #230

This misidentification BS makes my blood boil wercal May 2013 #203

Nice story LostOne4Ever May 2013 #206

Where is the 'offense'? Are pit bulls offended? randome May 2013 #211

We are talking about getting rid of a breed of dog that many people love LostOne4Ever May 2013 #216

I don't understand how you can 'love' a breed. I do understand loving a dog. randome May 2013 #223

Wow, fairly dismissive of my 'nice story' about a kid being wercal May 2013 #221

From the CDC Dog Bite Fact Sheet, referencing **YOUR LINK**: baldguy May 2013 #185

And why are they wrong? Why is DogsBite a propaganda website? baldguy May 2013 #189

You should realize that is not real research. Nine May 2013 #200

You're not even reading your own links. baldguy May 2013 #208

you read the links Nine May 2013 #219

Your reading comprehension skills are .... lacking. baldguy May 2013 #232

And here's another study debunking visual breed ID: baldguy May 2013 #191

Ah yes, cross posted. That's the very study I discuss above. (nt) Nine May 2013 #201

No matter which side of the argument you're on, haters gonna hate DainBramaged May 2013 #89

Wow. You're actually using NRA strategies now. aikoaiko May 2013 #95

Hahahaha. Gungeon II. TheCowsCameHome May 2013 #100

a gun is an inanimate object BainsBane May 2013 #107

Yes, imagine the danger if guns were animated. aikoaiko May 2013 #112

Yes, well if the guys who unloaded their BainsBane May 2013 #116

I was just teasing. aikoaiko May 2013 #117

that is true for any dog breed BainsBane May 2013 #118

Species? wercal May 2013 #126

breed BainsBane May 2013 #128

You are starting to babble wercal May 2013 #132

Oh, FFS BainsBane May 2013 #136

Wow - I suppose that's directed at me? wercal May 2013 #146

Yes, you truly are the smartest person on earth BainsBane May 2013 #147

Towering Intellect wercal May 2013 #154

And the two issues collide wercal May 2013 #111

Woohoo. Score a win for gun culture over pit-bull culture. aikoaiko May 2013 #113

We already had a thread on that BainsBane May 2013 #122

pit bulls kill people... ileus May 2013 #186

Yeah well rrneck May 2013 #121

No, they aren't BainsBane May 2013 #123

A large powerful dog regardless of breed rrneck May 2013 #137

You obviously don't know anything about dogs BainsBane May 2013 #138

If you treat any animal with cruelty and aggression rrneck May 2013 #148

It's simply false BainsBane May 2013 #152

I like dogs and with a couple of rare exceptions rrneck May 2013 #158

I have no problem with licensing dogs BainsBane May 2013 #163

No analogy is perfect. rrneck May 2013 #173

no question there is ideological extremism BainsBane May 2013 #174

Y'know, I'll bet rrneck May 2013 #194

We can and should legislate behavior BainsBane May 2013 #196

Can't do it. rrneck May 2013 #197

laws already exist BainsBane May 2013 #199

That's the problem. rrneck May 2013 #213

look at drug laws BainsBane May 2013 #227

The drug wars have been a failure. rrneck May 2013 #229

Another point BainsBane May 2013 #168

Yeah, I heard about that car thing. That sucks. rrneck May 2013 #171

It is true that cities are not islands BainsBane May 2013 #172

Excellent! Finally someone addresses the size of a dog, thank you. I do not know how to enforce your uppityperson May 2013 #139

only it's completely false BainsBane May 2013 #149

Larger dogs can potentially cause more damage more quickly. uppityperson May 2013 #150

Potentially is not probably BainsBane May 2013 #153

how does this validate or invalidate either side of the argument? LanternWaste May 2013 #144

See? See? First it was my guns, now they want my pit bulls. TheCowsCameHome May 2013 #156

more people killed by guns than dogs hollysmom May 2013 #162

Way more BainsBane May 2013 #176

Note to Admins: Turbineguy May 2013 #169

More of this? Wow. n-t Logical May 2013 #178

Since you're on about this again whatchamacallit May 2013 #183

Is your only solution for every problem you face to kill it? baldguy May 2013 #193

I don't buy it whatchamacallit May 2013 #218

um... I really thought you were going to say that the dogs were not pit bulls ecstatic May 2013 #198

Ban the breed. The Link May 2013 #205

Ban the breed banners. baldguy May 2013 #209

We have to ban "assault dogs". krispos42 May 2013 #212

Splendid piece of satire, baldguy! You're giving graham4anything a run for his money. Nimajneb Nilknarf May 2013 #215