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jeff47

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126. No, it doesn't. Please stop spreading this.

Tue May 21, 2013, 03:17 PM

May 2013

It comes down to foundation depth.

In Wisconsin, the ground freezes down to about 4 feet. Which means your foundation must be about 6 feet deep. When you're already digging down 6 feet, adding another foot or two to get a basement is not a large cost.

In Oklahoma, the ground freezes down to about 18 inches. Which means your foundation must be about 3 feet deep. Digging deeper in order to fit in a basement is much more expensive.

It has nothing to do with water tables or bedrock. Even if it did, it is not difficult to build an above-ground storm shelter out of reinforced concrete.

We sent people to the moon. We can dig a hole in the ground.

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Oklahoma Republicans say NO to disaster relief and ask for a smaller government. [View all] DonRedwood May 2013 OP

...and insist that global warming is a fraud jberryhill May 2013 #1

I'd personally like to see them beg for help DonRedwood May 2013 #5

I want the people to get alsame May 2013 #11

Aid with strings SCVDem May 2013 #59

Shelters in Oklahoma? Why? 1Greensix May 2013 #68

Yawn. tabasco May 2013 #70

Post removed Post removed May 2013 #73

You have serious issues. Wow. Katashi_itto May 2013 #109

Dude should smoke a big fatty demwing May 2013 #113

:) Katashi_itto May 2013 #114

OK, to whom are you responding? demwing May 2013 #116

It has to do with the kind of bedrock beneath the soil. NCarolinawoman May 2013 #76

Yet fracking is no problem. nt SCVDem May 2013 #81

That makes sense about how hard it would be to build a shelter davidpdx May 2013 #94

Generalities suck cvoogt May 2013 #102

My city has a storm shelter ordinance NickB79 May 2013 #112

But that's in the Nanny-State of MN MNBrewer May 2013 #119

Oklahoma State Representative that represents Moore is now singing a different tune dbackjon May 2013 #122

The frost line in MN is about 7 feet deep. jeff47 May 2013 #128

Like I said, it also calls for a safe room if no basement is built NickB79 May 2013 #144

And the Mayor of Moore said building basements isn't an issue dbackjon May 2013 #121

I was just now watching timdog44 May 2013 #123

No, it doesn't. Please stop spreading this. jeff47 May 2013 #126

Bedrock? Sounds like bs. brush May 2013 #141

Bedrock not the real reason justcommenting May 2013 #145

Welcome to DU my friend! hrmjustin May 2013 #146

Thanks... justcommenting May 2013 #148

Thanks for the info. The bedrock thing just didn't sound right. nt brush May 2013 #149

Well, I grew up in lower SC and nobody had a basement. The basement would be constantly flooding raccoon May 2013 #115

Why no shelters? Angelonthesidelines May 2013 #124

I'd rather their constituents threw them out. NYtoBush-Drop Dead May 2013 #96

Post removed Post removed May 2013 #72

I agree, immediate aid. nt Mnemosyne May 2013 #2

Just make sure the aid is stamped "brought to you by Democrats". HooptieWagon May 2013 #3

That'll work. Because we really do love our country and its people. freshwest May 2013 #41

I heard the Lt. Governer say that Federal aid is on the way. City Lights May 2013 #4

FEMA responds pretty much immediately SteveG May 2013 #22

Thank you for the clarification. City Lights May 2013 #37

Well then, I also support immediate reconstruction aid DonRedwood May 2013 #42

There were two Representatives who voted no OKNancy May 2013 #6

Thanks for looking this one up...nt Stuart G May 2013 #7

I didn't look it up! I knew it OKNancy May 2013 #17

Delegation was split Z_I_Peevey May 2013 #19

Aha! jberryhill May 2013 #8

Hey OKNancy DonRedwood May 2013 #10

yes.. I just wrote a facebook post about their votes OKNancy May 2013 #14

I just shared your post on FB, Nancy AndyA May 2013 #47

I have more than my share dlwickham May 2013 #129

I hope they stay in office, sound better than those other guys. freshwest May 2013 #43

And, BOTH Republican Oklahoma U.S. senators, Coburn and Inhofe, voted 'NO' on Sandy aid. Tx4obama May 2013 #106

They probably have enough experience in their particular area to know that THEY could CTyankee May 2013 #111

Can't you wait til the buried children Celldweller May 2013 #9

The GOP politicized Hurricane Sandy perdita9 May 2013 #16

No, because that's the problem with Democrats Downtown Hound May 2013 #21

+1000 Blue_Tires May 2013 #137

It was politicized before it happened when Lex May 2013 #24

just curious... Celldweller May 2013 #30

How about a link on that? Lex May 2013 #31

right here Celldweller May 2013 #38

what's your point, they all sound like good things? juxtaposed May 2013 #48

you're right... Celldweller May 2013 #54

Fuck your cesspool example. Zoeisright May 2013 #69

life is short.. they elect.. them they live with it! juxtaposed May 2013 #74

u & I are not on the same page. juxtaposed May 2013 #75

Yes, they do belong in an emergency relief bill. jeff47 May 2013 #130

This message was self-deleted by its author DeadLetterOffice May 2013 #50

Too late. The Republicans have ALREADY politicized disaster relief.. socialist_n_TN May 2013 #25

Ditto For Me maidensandiego May 2013 #140

Please KingFlorez May 2013 #40

Can't you get your frickin' Repub buddies maxrandb May 2013 #64

Fuck that. Zoeisright May 2013 #67

NO! Who is this post hurting? WHO??? n-t Logical May 2013 #83

The horrible consequences of this event are maintained and exacerbated by politics. LanternWaste May 2013 #118

FYI OKNancy May 2013 #12

Nancy, I only hope they're ashamed enough Pale Blue Dot May 2013 #58

They weren't the last time. (nt) jeff47 May 2013 #132

Send them lot's of bootstraps engraved with curtisy of the GOP... WCGreen May 2013 #13

Republicans are only American when it's convenient for them perdita9 May 2013 #15

Apparently a lot of people, MuseRider May 2013 #18

So you don't agree that the Republicans have ALREADY politicized ...... socialist_n_TN May 2013 #23

I think it is fucking disgusting MuseRider May 2013 #26

Absolutely, muserider CAG May 2013 #98

then goodbye it is.. frylock May 2013 #125

Seriously? sakabatou May 2013 #20

I have to as a really uneducated question: Myrina May 2013 #27

I hadn't considered that point. I'd like an answer too. nt Auntie Bush May 2013 #29

Or fracking wells Politicalboi May 2013 #53

It's below ground. jeff47 May 2013 #133

Love it. Love it. nt duhneece May 2013 #28

I don't suppose this nailed the Koch Bros. eh? SCVDem May 2013 #32

And We Could Show Them These: WillyT May 2013 #33

Hear, hear! IrishAyes May 2013 #34

Doesn't it just warm your heart to post shit like this? cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #35

Too soon? SCVDem May 2013 #44

How is an F4 tornado preventable? SlimJimmy May 2013 #71

Ever hear about climate change? SCVDem May 2013 #78

The last major tornado to hit this area was more than 10 years ago. If climate change is the SlimJimmy May 2013 #80

Yes you can. If you care for the future of the planet. ErikJ May 2013 #90

Have you ever see the Metropolitan Insurance commercial where the guy says: SlimJimmy May 2013 #110

The tornado isn't. The loss of life is easily preventable jeff47 May 2013 #134

Are you saying the federal government should mandate building codes nationwide? I suppose SlimJimmy May 2013 #135

Evil big government is not limited to the federal government. jeff47 May 2013 #138

I'm sure that some do, but I would think that the majority of local citizens would SlimJimmy May 2013 #142

I wish they had "smart tornadoes" that could target the Koch mansion in Wichita. The bastard who.. ErikJ May 2013 #36

No, you're not an Cha May 2013 #39

Not with their short selective memories. ErikJ May 2013 #56

Well said. kairos12 May 2013 #99

Other People Should Stand on Their Own Two Feet Wolf Frankula May 2013 #45

as nancy often said " Just Say No" They elected their rep's. Let them live with it! juxtaposed May 2013 #46

Send them 200 tons of bootstraps and copies of "Atlas Shrugged" perhaps? HooptieWagon May 2013 #51

agee,,,, but they shoud know we helped them ,,, but still if they want to be so evil we should let t juxtaposed May 2013 #62

Yes, let children suffer a slow painful death Daniel537 May 2013 #63

you are NOT fooling me Skittles May 2013 #77

juxtaposed is a good name... awoke_in_2003 May 2013 #87

'ol tom coles is just happy all those resources are there....... spanone May 2013 #49

Per the Huffington Post (1/15/2013) Tom Cole was one of the few Republicans to vote for Sandy relief dflprincess May 2013 #85

How did Tom Coburn vote? malaise May 2013 #52

He voted against Sandy aid. HooptieWagon May 2013 #93

all the aid packages (foodstuffs, water bottles, etc) Volaris May 2013 #55

The Koch brothers . . . another_liberal May 2013 #57

Fiddler on the Roof PatrynXX May 2013 #60

How would Oklahoma feel SCVDem May 2013 #61

to teach compassion and cooperation, one must elucidate its benefits NuttyFluffers May 2013 #65

re:Oklahoma Republicans say NO to disaster relief and ask for a smaller government. allan01 May 2013 #66

Oh for shit's sake! Brigid May 2013 #79

Hmm... davidthegnome May 2013 #82

People in Oklahoma that need help will get help. But the politicians that some of the bluestate10 May 2013 #84

Called out by whom? Doctor_J May 2013 #88

Unfortunately your probably right Daniel537 May 2013 #127

This is why we have to realign the media, by any means necessary Doctor_J May 2013 #86

And the people living in those areas keep voting those assholes in. Apophis May 2013 #89

I wonder if they will be consistent with their beliefs treestar May 2013 #91

Of course you are right. n-t Logical May 2013 #92

After Sandy Maybe, BillyRibs May 2013 #95

Teachable moment. moondust May 2013 #97

And every Social Security check should have "Brought to you by the Democrats" stamped on it. nt SunSeeker May 2013 #100

And they'll go right back and vote for the same assholes. MrSlayer May 2013 #101

. blkmusclmachine May 2013 #103

One Oklahoma Senator Has Called For DallasNE May 2013 #104

Colburn will want all the federal aid, but will demand cuts elsewhere to pay for any relief efforts Tx4obama May 2013 #105

they don't care Mkap May 2013 #107

As a red state Oklahoma Democrat Coyote_Bandit May 2013 #108

There's been a streak of that on here lately, i'm afraid. Daniel537 May 2013 #131

Take a look at the comments on Coburn's facebook page, lol E-Z-B May 2013 #117

Where's the Republican Governor in All This? dynasaw May 2013 #120

already calling for help from the big bad government Doctor_J May 2013 #136

FUCK Oklahoma.. penndragon69 May 2013 #139

That says everything we need to know about you. If I ever put someone on an ignore list, SlimJimmy May 2013 #143

That's it. AngryOldDem May 2013 #147