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HiPointDem

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53. they're not 'under-attended'. the claim of 'underutilization' is false.
Tue May 21, 2013, 03:07 PM
May 2013

It's also hard to know what CPS means by "underutilized." An independent investigation of CPS data by the Raise Your Hand for Illinois Public Education coalition found that "76 percent of CPS elementary schools had entire grades above the recommended class size limit set by CPS in 2011," according to Catalyst Chicago.

Clearly, the statistics that supposedly show underutilization at more than 300 schools have been manipulated.

http://socialistworker.org/2013/03/04/rahms-scorched-earth-assault


Mayor Rahm Emanuel's push to close dozens of schools hinges on a vision of the "ideal" size for kindergarten through eighth-grade classes as 30 students, far larger than is the case now in the typical Chicago classroom.

That round number — little mentioned despite months of public debate — provides the simplest explanation yet for parents, students and teachers trying to understand why their schools are among 129 that could face closing.

Setting a benchmark higher than what records indicate is reality across Chicago — and far higher than in many suburbs — indicates to some that Emanuel is willing to buck the popular notion that smaller classes produce better students who get more individual attention.

But state records show that actual classroom numbers are all over the map in Chicago, with some above 30 yet most well below. Last school year, for example, Chicago classes ranged from an average size of 23.8 in second grade to 25.1 in sixth grade, according to the state data. City class-size averages have been in the same ballpark for several years, the state records show.

Thirty is not the norm in most suburbs or downstate school districts either, according to state statistics that show most class sizes substantially below that.

The statewide average class size ranges from 20.9 in kindergarten to 22.8 in fifth grade.

Asked why they seized on the 30-student-a-class standard in calculations, school officials first told the Tribune that the number reflected the reality in a Chicago classroom today. Pressed on the discrepancy with state records, they said they didn't know where the state got its information and cast doubt on its accuracy. The state said it gets its data from CPS.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-03-06/news/ct-met-cps-school-closing-class-size-20130306_1_class-size-state-records-high-schools


Rahm's closing *only* black schools because they don't have 30 kids/per class. It's bullshite and it's racist.

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A header like that must not go unrecognized. K and R n/t Smarmie Doofus May 2013 #1
piss on Rahm Emanuel KG May 2013 #2
Kick ananda May 2013 #3
Perfect description of one of Obama's pals. forestpath May 2013 #4
Non sequitur much? Buzz Clik May 2013 #8
Deflection much? Obviously. forestpath May 2013 #12
This isn't about Obama, as much as you'd like it to be. Buzz Clik May 2013 #15
Yep. AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #18
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA woo me with science May 2013 #13
My favorite shadow. Buzz Clik May 2013 #14
What's cute is how the Third Way incessantly hawks the President's neoliberal policies woo me with science May 2013 #16
"throwing a tantrum every time someone uses the correct label for them." Interesting phrasing. Buzz Clik May 2013 #20
That was ugly but not unexpected. woo me with science May 2013 #22
Why do you make so many personal attacks? AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #36
who are you? why are you here? Buzz Clik May 2013 #38
I am, in part, a curious person. I am also a person who would like to see issues discussed on the AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #39
Are you also addressing the other person involved, or is this actually something different? Buzz Clik May 2013 #41
"Racist, knuckle-dragging" was the comparison you used. woo me with science May 2013 #42
You're confused as to which post I was responding to? Only one person said that the language AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #43
Oh, please. Buzz Clik May 2013 #44
You don't consider that to be an insult? Then why did you post it? AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #46
"You don't consider that to be an insult? Then why did you post it?" Sweet jeebus. Buzz Clik May 2013 #48
You should read Summer Hathaway's posts here about the "label maker" Number23 May 2013 #58
Wow! I am awed. Buzz Clik May 2013 #62
+1 leftstreet May 2013 #55
You are correct. This silly banter isnt getting us anywhere. Let's go for substance. How do you feel rhett o rick May 2013 #60
I answered you a second ago in this thread that I feel betrayed by Rahm. Buzz Clik May 2013 #64
Sorry for doubling up on the question. And you pretty well answered my question farther rhett o rick May 2013 #65
You are correct. This is about Rahm. How do you feel about him? nm rhett o rick May 2013 #59
Disgusted. Betrayed. Buzz Clik May 2013 #63
Chicago elected that POS mayor. LWolf May 2013 #5
Rahm was elected because he was the Machine candidate AngryAmish May 2013 #69
People in those armies LWolf May 2013 #71
When your job depends on who you vote for, you toe the line AngryAmish May 2013 #73
Sort of. LWolf May 2013 #75
I knew Rahm was a POS MynameisBlarney May 2013 #6
+1 Buzz Clik May 2013 #9
I don't understand. You agree that Emanuel is horrible, but Marr May 2013 #45
Rahm Emanuel is a former Goldman Sachs employee working on a GS agenda. Obama knew that. AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #47
Exactly-- and when Obama was surrounding himself with Emanuels and Geithners, Marr May 2013 #49
I've never like Rahm from day one, but to be fair Blue_Tires May 2013 #54
He didn't deserve it more than Dean. Marr May 2013 #66
True, but I've always suspected that unlike Dean, Blue_Tires May 2013 #67
Rahm better work fast and keep his resume up to date... Buzz Clik May 2013 #7
He's like a fungus. ananda May 2013 #10
Absolutely! He will be running for higher office. Buzz Clik May 2013 #11
He is going to be a one term mayor Chisox08 May 2013 #23
He needs to go away completely. As dog catcher... Buzz Clik May 2013 #25
I have no use for him either Chisox08 May 2013 #32
Rahm Emanuel is a Goldman Sachs alumni. A fund raiser for the super-rich. AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #17
So what's your plan to keep under-attended schools open? Recursion May 2013 #19
OK, so because I haven't devised a formal plan for keeping schools open ........ marmar May 2013 #21
He has no point. Nice link to an excellent site. Thanks byeya May 2013 #28
Those schools are not under attended Chisox08 May 2013 #27
In what way exactly are these schools under-attended? AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #30
.. Buzz Clik May 2013 #50
In nearly all cities, low attendance is temporary and a result of shifting demographics. Buzz Clik May 2013 #31
they're not 'under-attended'. the claim of 'underutilization' is false. HiPointDem May 2013 #53
If you have done the research on this, please share. nm rhett o rick May 2013 #61
Blue Dog/Third Way/"New" Democrat blkmusclmachine May 2013 #24
+1000000 Note the predictable, furious attempts already woo me with science May 2013 #40
precisely. Rahm who? nashville_brook May 2013 #57
Rahm is the embodiment of the core values held by the DLCers or whatever you want to byeya May 2013 #74
du rec. nt xchrom May 2013 #26
If Rahm is a Democrat why would anybody want to be a Democrat? byeya May 2013 #29
With Democrats like Rahm who needs Republicons Chisox08 May 2013 #33
They always point out that the Republican candidates, who also represent the super-rich, are worse. AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #34
Agree with you: The "D" has, unfortunately, given neolibs protection from the left. Time to byeya May 2013 #37
IWW is headqtrd in Chicago ! lunasun May 2013 #76
Wow! nineteen50 May 2013 #35
K&R idwiyo May 2013 #51
Rahm used to work for Goldman Sachs. Smells of privatization/disaster capitalism. n/t Fire Walk With Me May 2013 #52
k&r Starry Messenger May 2013 #56
Excellent essay. k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth May 2013 #68
In Chicago, TPTB have decided to make black folks move out AngryAmish May 2013 #70
A huge chunk of Rahm Emanuel's votes came from the African American community. Chisox08 May 2013 #72
and both B+Ws listened to whispers that Chico would favor Hispanics over other groups in Chicago lunasun May 2013 #78
+1 -future land grab imo close to the lake so disassemble communities as a start lunasun May 2013 #77
The neighborhood Calhoun is in, is close to downtown. Chisox08 May 2013 #79
I see it is near west side yes lunasun May 2013 #80
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