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eridani

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Wed May 22, 2013, 07:35 AM May 2013

Employers Eye Bare-Bones Health Plans Under New Law [View all]

Employers Eye Bare-Bones Health Plans Under New Law

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324787004578493274030598186.html

Employers are increasingly recognizing they may be able to avoid certain penalties under the federal health law by offering very limited plans that can lack key benefits such as hospital coverage.

Benefits advisers and insurance brokers--bucking a commonly held expectation that the law would broadly enrich benefits--are pitching these low-benefit plans around the country. They cover minimal requirements such as preventive services, but often little more. Some of the plans wouldn't cover surgery, X-rays or prenatal care at all.

Federal officials say this type of plan, in concept, would appear to qualify as acceptable minimum coverage under the law, and let most employers avoid an across-the-workforce $2,000-per-worker penalty for firms that offer nothing.

The idea that such plans would be allowable under the law has emerged only recently. Some benefits advisers still feel they could face regulatory uncertainty. The law requires employers with 50 or more workers to offer coverage to their workers or pay a penalty. Many employers and benefits experts have understood the rules to require robust insurance, covering a list of "essential" benefits such as mental-health services and a high percentage of workers' overall costs.

But a close reading of the rules makes it clear that those mandates affect only plans sponsored by insurers that are sold to small businesses and individuals, federal officials confirm.

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Administration officials confirmed in interviews that the skinny plans, in concept, would be sufficient to avoid the across-the-workforce penalty. Several expressed surprise that employers would consider the approach.


Comment by Don McCanne of PNHP: Imagine health insurance not covering hospitalizations nor surgery. Yet this is still possible because the Affordable Care Act applies the essential health benefit requirement only to plans for small businesses and individuals and not to larger employers.

This has opened up the opportunity for a conspiracy between larger employers who could care less whether or not their employees have health insurance and private insurers who are quite willing to sell these almost worthless bare-bones products as long as there is a profitable market for them.

The solution is obvious. Cover all care that people need, and then provide that coverage to everyone, automatically. Maybe these uncaring employers might not like that, but when the taxes to pay for an equitable system are obligatory, they would get used to the idea of their employees being able to obtain health care when they need it. Not such a bad idea after all, especially when their competitors are treated the same.
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ACA: clusterfuck. KG May 2013 #1
Unless a few states can use its provisions to establish local single payer eridani May 2013 #2
It's praised by many still Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #11
ACA will enable me to retire early without worrying about "medical coverage" Kolesar May 2013 #35
Your opinion about how good that insurance will be is worth about what your opinion-- eridani May 2013 #45
Why? eom Kolesar May 2013 #46
I take it you have a plan of action ready for when your claims get turned down? eridani May 2013 #48
Nah, I'm still going to quit my job and spend my time on DU blogging with these exciting people Kolesar May 2013 #49
"If after internal appeal the plan still denies your request for payment or services, you can ask-- eridani May 2013 #53
This part is scary: Ilsa May 2013 #3
who could have predicted? Enrique May 2013 #5
Oh my, this is so true! How could we have possibly forseen this? It's mystifying! Safetykitten May 2013 #17
Oh brother. City Lights May 2013 #47
"Administration officials confirmed in interviews that the skinny plans, in concept . . . " DrDan May 2013 #4
Still better than what the employees have now.. Bandit May 2013 #6
but they will be uninsured Enrique May 2013 #7
They are uninsured right now Bandit May 2013 #13
No one goes bankrupt over a doctor's office bill. They go Ilsa May 2013 #21
And for want of a copay for an office visit, many don't go to the doctor either. So there you have Safetykitten May 2013 #28
Yes, the insurance needs to be comprehensive Ilsa May 2013 #36
Most of these employers will probably go for the high deductible aka "Consumer Driven" plans dflprincess May 2013 #41
How? An insurance policy that doesn't pay for the insured is just extortion. n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #9
It is extortion if they make employees pay the bill Bandit May 2013 #14
you are making the incorrect assumption that employees of these large corporations are uninsured DrDan May 2013 #16
Legally required. You wrote the problem of this whole train wreck in your reply. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #20
huh? how is that? DrDan May 2013 #15
Uh, in case you forgot 800,000 about work for WALMART. Safetykitten May 2013 #22
uh . . . and many many more work for IBM, AT&T, GM, etc etc etc DrDan May 2013 #31
We should call them Baucus policies, in "honor" of Max's great service to Zorra May 2013 #8
Perhaps our elected representatives.... Flyboy_451 May 2013 #10
The WSJ ProSense May 2013 #12
And like clockwork... Safetykitten May 2013 #18
Here: ProSense May 2013 #23
Sure, using people as time buyers for what should of been is quite classy. Safetykitten May 2013 #24
Is that supposed to be a sentence? eom Kolesar May 2013 #38
What if paying the fine is cheaper than going along with the plan? nt clarice May 2013 #34
Yes, the WSJ is full of shit. Moosepoop May 2013 #37
Don't Be So Sure..... ill wind May 2013 #42
Welcome to DU my friend! hrmjustin May 2013 #44
Well, let's see...nation's largest employer is Walmart, and...oh, nevermind. Safetykitten May 2013 #19
Wow. That basically amounts to NO coverage. WinkyDink May 2013 #25
Yes, this fact is lost on many. Safetykitten May 2013 #26
thats why my employer just cut our coverage to bare bones, $2500 out of pocket before they pick up Demonaut May 2013 #27
seriously. use the er for service, buy pet store antibiotics. crash the system. its gonna happen galileoreloaded May 2013 #29
Well this will upset the worshippers. n/t L0oniX May 2013 #30
This is just the tasty party snacks part, The full course nightmare is being heated up as we speak. Safetykitten May 2013 #32
HAHA Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #43
Dude, you're on the wrong thread! Kolesar May 2013 #50
Obamacare: Tastes great! Less filling. Or, Obama DOESN'T really care. MotherPetrie May 2013 #33
K&R woo me with science May 2013 #39
kick woo me with science May 2013 #40
Time for single payer and to eliminate ties with the job on point May 2013 #51
and you won't be eligible for subsidies from the exchange because you will have "affordable" antigop May 2013 #52
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