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Nye Bevan

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79. DU jury endorses description of tornado victims as "paranoid victimy fundie flagwavers".

Wed May 22, 2013, 08:13 AM

May 2013

I am so sorry that DUers from Oklahoma have to see garbage like this here. I alerted but unfortunately the jury decided not to hide it.

YOUR COMMENTS:

Deriding the Oklahoma tornado victims as "paranoid victimy fundie flagwavers" is extremely hurtful and way over-the-top in my opinion. There are many good Democrats in OK who have lost everything and DUers should not be playing politics like this. Please consider reinforcing this point by hiding this post. Thank you for your time.

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Wed May 22, 2013, 08:07 AM, and voted 2-4 to LEAVE IT ALONE.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: These people are our fellow Americans regardless of their politics. They've been devastated by a natural disaster and need help. Kicking them when they're down seems to me to run counter to progressive behavior.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: The alerter should post his/her reasons for alerting as a response (instead of alerting).
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: TRUTH

Thank you.

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O.K. I�ll say it.. What�s with the American Flags all over the destruction areas? [View all] busterbrown May 2013 OP

I dunno, but if it gives them a few crumbs of comfort, what the hell. n/t winter is coming May 2013 #1

Exactly BeyondGeography May 2013 #81

My take on it. I'd probably do the same. Eleanors38 May 2013 #90

Post removed Post removed May 2013 #2

There is no reason to be rude, it was only a question. n/t Tx4obama May 2013 #4

+1 deathrind May 2013 #7

It's OK. All they need is their guns and bible. Nuff said. I wish the state heeling. If southernyankeebelle May 2013 #133

The word you want is "healing". whathehell May 2013 #155

your right. thanks but sometimes you even have to have the heel republicans like dogs. southernyankeebelle May 2013 #162

True enough, lol. whathehell May 2013 #164

yep southernyankeebelle May 2013 #165

Great answer..." Because we live in America" busterbrown May 2013 #9

they forgot "Freedom" demwing May 2013 #80

Freedumb! FSogol May 2013 #92

That's what the flag means to you? leftynyc May 2013 #100

Many people feel our national heritage is one of resiliency and overcoming things RB TexLa May 2013 #3

as opposed to other countries whose heritage is one of resiliency and overcoming things? choie May 2013 #12

No, it has nothing to do with the heritage other countries RB TexLa May 2013 #14

Boy some people are clever around here. busterbrown May 2013 #20

Putting up a strawman is clever? leftynyc May 2013 #101

Very well said. nt clarice May 2013 #102

I guess the tornadoes were anti roody May 2013 #5

Because nationalism and flying the flag is more important than RC May 2013 #6

Well, the Smiley Face Flags seemed a good idea at first, but later seemed vaguely inappropriate. . . Journeyman May 2013 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author busterbrown May 2013 #10

Gonna get flamed for this, but I think it's the press staging cliched photos Demo_Chris May 2013 #11

It's the press's idea of inspirational. hay rick May 2013 #16

Pretty much. That's my opinion anyway. Demo_Chris May 2013 #25

No flames, but have you ever spent any time in OK? n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #18

Yeah, I live on the Oklahoma / Texas border and travel there extensively Demo_Chris May 2013 #24

First, let me say how sorry I am for that. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #29

I guess I don't understand the question... Demo_Chris May 2013 #31

No doubt, IMO, that they were brought in, I just find it completely believable that Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #45

Having been in a few as a photog nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #44

It's a massive conspiracy pinboy3niner May 2013 #13

Preplanned, at that. pintobean May 2013 #57

Thank God I'm not the only one who sees... pinboy3niner May 2013 #58

Just photo ops defacto7 May 2013 #15

To show Al Qaeda that this attack on our freedoms will not dissuade us from our China made flags. onehandle May 2013 #17

unfortunately that may be the truest answer . olddots May 2013 #21

ROTFLMAO! Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #22

Not far wrong pinboy3niner May 2013 #28

Two or three years ago on July 3 or so deutsey May 2013 #122

If you're not with us... choie May 2013 #46

LOL! nt avebury May 2013 #72

You win the internet for today treestar May 2013 #75

They suffered a trauma. I have no problems with how people choose to cope with it. n/t cynatnite May 2013 #19

Right, however when its used to further distrust, I�m bothered... busterbrown May 2013 #26

Is that what they're doing in this situation? cynatnite May 2013 #34

I wouldn�t want to bet that the reason for people putting up the flags was a for a showing of unity. busterbrown May 2013 #38

I still don't see the problem with this... cynatnite May 2013 #40

Its all related..Why do people not want to admit this? busterbrown May 2013 #43

How is it related? cynatnite May 2013 #47

I find it ironic that OK, which as a state seems eager to secede, likes to fly the flag so much. kestrel91316 May 2013 #117

I live in Oklahoma City and wasn't aware that Oklahoma, as a state, was eager to secede RedEarth May 2013 #119

Can't imagine Austrians flying flags after an avalanche wiping out a village. wake.up.america May 2013 #23

Nothing wrong with flying a flag in such horrible occurrence... wake.up.america May 2013 #41

This just occurred to me, fwiw: it's deep within our national consciousness as Americans deutsey May 2013 #126

That makes me feel sad for Austrians. n/t cigsandcoffee May 2013 #139

It is a symbol to some that they will prevail over it. I think it is a sign of a community and hrmjustin May 2013 #27

It would be nice, but I don�t believe that this was the purpose. busterbrown May 2013 #32

When I see the flag I see what is best in America. It is a beautiful thing to me. hrmjustin May 2013 #37

No one can hijack your version of the flag. Jennicut May 2013 #160

This thread is a bright illustration of why progressives have difficulty Eleanors38 May 2013 #91

Aint that the truth leftynyc May 2013 #107

no kidding...... dhill926 May 2013 #158

This is the best answer by far!!! GermanDem May 2013 #118

As an Oklahoman, I think your answer is spot on RedEarth May 2013 #120

I see no problem at all with our flag flying in the breeze. We all live in the United States. demosincebirth May 2013 #30

I don't know and I don't care, premium May 2013 #33

Because it's become a symbol of resilience in American culture, overcoming the odds Scootaloo May 2013 #35

Yes, because Bangladeshis, Afghanis, Indonesians, ....no "resilience" there! WinkyDink May 2013 #87

But as I say upthread: the flag=resilience goes back to our national anthem deutsey May 2013 #128

I don't know why you're so down on non-Americans Winky Scootaloo May 2013 #148

Maybe it/ me. nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #36

You really should go and confront those folks in person. Nye Bevan May 2013 #39

How many people die horrible deaths everyday because of lack of healthcare. Compassion is deserved busterbrown May 2013 #42

Did you respond to the wrong person? n/t cynatnite May 2013 #51

Maybe, I�m done however. busterbrown May 2013 #53

True compassion doesn't pecwae May 2013 #65

Well said! n/t Inkfreak May 2013 #67

+1000 leftynyc May 2013 #108

"I knew I'd raise a bit of a shit storm". NCTraveler May 2013 #129

I'd like to hear the details of your service to this country. N/T Marengo May 2013 #68

A republican way of showing mutual empathy & resilliance. Liberal Boston showed it applegrove May 2013 #48

Are you saying that no one in Boston waved their flag after the bombings? ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2013 #104

I'm just speculating. And remembering the GOP under Bush and how they tried to suppress applegrove May 2013 #140

How did you miss all of the pics of people in Boston waiving flags? nt. NCTraveler May 2013 #127

I did miss it. I was overwhelmed with the compassion and paying it forward everyone in Boston showed applegrove May 2013 #141

That is very good. Probably the same reason you are not noticing them in OK right now. nt. NCTraveler May 2013 #142

OKlahoma senator had an republican agenda answer ready for the tornado damage. If we accept applegrove May 2013 #170

I think its about the original purpose of flags. Half-Century Man May 2013 #49

Well why our country so much. I understand when its for war.. busterbrown May 2013 #56

Maybe it a I'm still here thing. Half-Century Man May 2013 #64

Not just cultural- literal loyalsister May 2013 #76

Remember "The Star Spangle Banner"? Lady Freedom Returns May 2013 #50

That was a war song.. In a war the enemy tries to defeat you and when they do they take your busterbrown May 2013 #60

Because the enemy did not take the flag. Lady Freedom Returns May 2013 #156

No. I remember "The Star SpangleD Banner." WinkyDink May 2013 #86

Post of the day HangOnKids May 2013 #96

... Lady Freedom Returns May 2013 #159

Maybe Mother Nature is a terrorist and we don't want any terrorism.... Wait a minute. Lint Head May 2013 #52

It's an example of the granfalloon effect Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #54

it's fine........leave it be Demonaut May 2013 #55

I hadn't even noticed them Raine May 2013 #59

who cares? Niceguy1 May 2013 #61

The same reasons reasons people put a cross by the road at the scene of a fatal car accident. alphafemale May 2013 #62

+1 aristocles May 2013 #63

And those people certainly need comfort right now. lunatica May 2013 #70

They are trying to piss off Jane Fonda, B Calm May 2013 #66

"O.K. I'll say it." Inkfreak May 2013 #69

The main purpose is so that I, a Duer and an Oklahoman CBGLuthier May 2013 #71

I hear you. And some wonder why liberals can't get anywhere. Eleanors38 May 2013 #93

Please don't assume all DUers leftynyc May 2013 #110

+1000 CokeMachine May 2013 #136

Yep. cordelia May 2013 #151

My Mom's entire family is from Oklahoma. I lived in Midwest City and Choctaw. FUCK the haters. cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #168

Many many OK people are paranoid victimy fundie flagwavers. ananda May 2013 #73

And many people who indulge in region bashing are insensitive clods. winter is coming May 2013 #78

DU jury endorses description of tornado victims as "paranoid victimy fundie flagwavers". Nye Bevan May 2013 #79

Juror number 4 can't read ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2013 #99

I think Juror #4 is saying that instead of alerting, Nye Bevan May 2013 #103

Yeah, the old "deal with them in the thread" retort ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2013 #105

Jury didn't go your way HangOnKids May 2013 #114

I don't get the point of hiding posts instead of deleting the post npk May 2013 #163

I'm from Oklahoma and I appreciate your comments RedEarth May 2013 #132

The hatred of the South is about the worst characteristic of DU (nt) Nye Bevan May 2013 #145

not just of the South. hatred of anything different. Prejudice, arrogance and self-rightousness liberal_at_heart May 2013 #169

But to be safe you'd best shit on everyone in the state. Wouldn't want to miss anybody, right? 11 Bravo May 2013 #115

Maybe I am mistaken sarisataka May 2013 #116

Your shitty comment HappyMe May 2013 #123

As an Oklahoman, RedEarth May 2013 #134

You're very welcome. HappyMe May 2013 #135

What a vile post! nt CokeMachine May 2013 #138

Repulsive post. cordelia May 2013 #152

I would say generally, too. treestar May 2013 #74

A subconscious use of positive symbolism resulting in a sense of tighter community closeness... LanternWaste May 2013 #77

My perception is that they were emulating the flag that was flown after 9/11 among the rubble liberal N proud May 2013 #82

Just after the disaster, I watched video of two strong male survivors, covered themselves in mud... nenagh May 2013 #83

It was done intentionally as a personal affront to you Shrek May 2013 #84

"Are all future disasters in this country going to be conflated with 911." In a word: YES. WinkyDink May 2013 #85

These people's houses just got knocked down ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2013 #88

I�ll tell you what irritates me... Thousands of people dying because they are too poor and kids busterbrown May 2013 #94

And what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2013 #98

Let me ask you again when an avalanche destroys a town in Austria do the citizens come out and busterbrown May 2013 #106

Who cares? people can do what they want on their property ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2013 #111

Your knowledge of Chile's response to disaster needs some work onenote May 2013 #150

"it's the American way" riverwalker May 2013 #89

And the Chilean, Haitian, Japanese, Chinese etc. Way. onenote May 2013 #161

I have no problem with it bigwillq May 2013 #95

This. ScreamingMeemie May 2013 #97

+1 MadrasT May 2013 #131

Amazing sarisataka May 2013 #109

totally agree with you... madrchsod May 2013 #113

Maybe they have been conditioned to show allegiance to power when fearful siligut May 2013 #112

Accurate. Lex May 2013 #124

It's a magic totem of patriotism!! Manifestor_of_Light May 2013 #121

"Does this tragedy have a connection to Nationalism?" NCTraveler May 2013 #125

New York Giants avatar Malone May 2013 #130

I agree I thought the same thing gopiscrap May 2013 #137

OK, I'll say it ..... oldhippie May 2013 #143

We have a winner! +a really big number onenote May 2013 #146

Takes a special kind of poster to mock how a town copes Skip Intro May 2013 #144

Maybe they are in support of our Commander In Chief who immediately offered to lend a hand bushisanidiot May 2013 #147

O.K. I'll ask it.. What, or whom, does it harm? Certainly not me. Does it you? Really? And bike man May 2013 #149

American flags being festooned... Libertas1776 May 2013 #153

911 - yes get the red out May 2013 #154

I don't live in OK, but I've lived next door for 45+ years and know a good number of Oklahomans. Arkansas Granny May 2013 #157

Why do some people equate shitting on the flag with liberal street cred? Throd May 2013 #166

I will criticize law makers who with hold relief money unless cuts are made somewhere else, but liberal_at_heart May 2013 #167