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OneGrassRoot

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65. Thank you for the reply. :)

Wed May 22, 2013, 11:00 AM

May 2013

I can't say that surprises me that much, yet maybe it is worthy of exploring this more deeply.

I can see how the "building self-esteem" approach has been taken too far in some cases. Your example of kids getting trophies when they didn't even show up...that's an example to me.

But do you think it extends beyond the childhood sports example in those kids? Do you think they are, to any significant degree, now basically lazy or unmotivated and expect to get jobs with little to no effort, or expect to be supported through no effort of their own?

I'm wondering how or if this is manifesting in their adult years.

Thanks again.

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