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Bluenorthwest

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25. I'd say that anyone seeing this as 'wish fulfilment' is part of the culture getting satirized
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 01:21 PM
Feb 2012

The DC snipers were an adult with issues who got a teenager to join his spree. It is not a necessary element of satire that the target of the satire is an exaggeration of a 'supported idea'. Any fact of reality is open to satire. It is that simple.
Of course, none of us here can critique the film with any honesty as we have not seen it. So any discussion of the content of the film much less of the larger message of the film, if that message is successful, if we agree with the premise, all of these aspects are unknown. You do not know that this film says '"there's a prat - let's kill him - yay! He's dead!" and while I also don't know that it does not, the work of the filmmaker would suggest that such joy in death is the opposite of what he does. To assume that the message is as you frame it, as you write it, as you create it is an assumption which comes from you, not from the filmmaker.
Nothing is "unacceptable for comedy" that is part of life. Nothing. This is a world where Dexter is a huge hit show. He kills people. It is amusing. It is meaningful. It is humorous. The theory that "unacceptable for comedy" exists is unsupported in the history of theater, film, and comedy itself. The only thing "unacceptable for comedy" is not getting laughs.
Comedies are often centered on people who are not supposed to function as heroic. Note that many, many comedies exist that in which all the characters are criminals, Mafia, hitmen, you name it. The list is endless. Endless. Characters of no decency are great comic fodder. That's why there are hundreds of such films. Hundreds.
Also the notion that 'tragedy' is high art which can address things mere comedy can not is a mistake. Dying is easy, comedy is hard. Comedy makes it easy to discuss issues that otherwise are taken as far too serious. Tragedy is far more limited in that regard. Not that there are 'off limits' areas for tragedy, just that the melodrama often takes the tragedy to maudlin places when it is 'too serious' or 'too like life'. A comedy fails if it is not funny. So it is really easy to find out if audiences as a whole find it funny. Show them the film, if they laugh, it worked. If they don't laugh, then it is not comedy at all, and most people will set the whole thing aside.
The idea of claiming a film is glorifying that which it mocks might hold merit if one has seen the film and has reasons to think that which they can communicate. To say '"unacceptable' sight unseen is without merit. Got to see that which you condemn or that which you praise.

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came up in videos and i had to look at it because alert. while deciding i read an article on syria seabeyond Feb 2012 #1
He's still alive??? greytdemocrat Feb 2012 #2
I was going to post exactly that. And then I remembered I was confusing him TwilightGardener Feb 2012 #5
my 1st reaction . . . eom ellenfl Feb 2012 #11
I thought he'd died years ago, too! Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #20
That was my first thought. geardaddy Feb 2012 #21
Are you taking a Bobcat comedy too seriously? Ohio Joe Feb 2012 #3
Since it appears to be about a huge killing spree muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #6
Comedies about killing sprees have been around a long time Ohio Joe Feb 2012 #9
Doctor Strangelove is about nuclear war and it is hilarious.... Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #10
However, we've never had nutters launch nuclear war like that muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #17
On the other hand, a rogue US general did attempt launching an unauthorized nuclear attack once. ieoeja Feb 2012 #24
Comedy mactime Feb 2012 #4
It's like Grumpy Old Men met Thelma and Louise met Lord of the Flies.. Fumesucker Feb 2012 #7
Um, 'use a child' is a funky term for employing a teen aged professional. Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #8
Perhaps 'use a child' refers to the character - a 16 year old (nt) muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #15
Except it did not refer to the character. The OP said 'use a child'. Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #19
#18 confirms they were talking about the character muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #23
I'd say that anyone seeing this as 'wish fulfilment' is part of the culture getting satirized Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #25
But we have seen the trailer muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #26
I wildly disagree that trailers communicate the film with intention...they exist to sell Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #29
I already did tell you the difference muriel_volestrangler Feb 2012 #31
Addressing your comments on subjects 'unacceptable for comedy'. Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #35
I didn't mean 'use a child actress' I mean using a child in the plot of the film. cyberpj Feb 2012 #18
Did you read the link? Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #22
Yep. cyberpj Feb 2012 #30
Who?? hifiguy Feb 2012 #12
this is his 3d or 4th feature film, he's also directed a ton of small scree stuff Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #13
I haven't heard anything of him in years. hifiguy Feb 2012 #14
Few pay attention to who directs or writes.... Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #16
World's Greatest Dad is a great movie Son of Gob Feb 2012 #32
I liked World's Greatest Dad. I've heard comedians say that his stand up act was political and Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2012 #33
meh, its just a movie. Joe Shlabotnik Feb 2012 #27
Apparently, many DUers don't get gallows humor. Pity. Cleita Feb 2012 #28
It looks funny to me. And I think I get what he's trying to say. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2012 #34
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