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Gormy Cuss

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57. Riding on a non-bike lane street? Of course they are. As long as it's a public, local access road

Wed May 22, 2013, 02:01 PM

May 2013

cyclists have as much right to use them as cars. Cyclists do not have the right to cruise through stop signs/red lights, travel on the wrong side of the street or on sidewalks (except where sidewalks are designated bike routes according to the state or local laws.) Cyclists also have the same responsibility as car drivers when it comes to using turn signals before moving to the left or right so those other bad behaviors are also illegal. Cops can and should cite cyclists who act that way just as they would cite car drivers. No excuses for those behaviors.

But cyclists don't just "show up in the middle of the street." There are legal reasons for cyclists to be in the travel lane and because of that drivers should ALWAYS be looking for cyclists when rounding blind corners or turning into a travel lanes from parking lots, etc.

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Driver Brags About Hitting Cyclist on Twitter; Learns Police Have Internet [View all] pokerfan May 2013 OP

Nitwit. n/t A HERETIC I AM May 2013 #1

Nitweet nt Xipe Totec May 2013 #4

NitWayt. Ahem. ChairmanAgnostic May 2013 #58

Twit Wit. dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #170

YAM. MineralMan May 2013 #2

What a maroon!! PCIntern May 2013 #3

I suspect she's British. temporary311 May 2013 #5

From the comments... pokerfan May 2013 #6

Yes, there is Spider Jerusalem May 2013 #17

MOT Tests,too nt riqster May 2013 #32

Sorry, now it is Vehicle Excise Duty intaglio May 2013 #35

Sure, but people still call it "road tax" Spider Jerusalem May 2013 #38

If we want to be technical, it's called the CAR TAX--but most people still call it Road Tax. MADem May 2013 #145

Fair enough pokerfan May 2013 #48

It's DU these days... PCIntern May 2013 #121

You pay a road tax in UK and display a disc which is evidence of such on your vehicle in UK. MADem May 2013 #144

There's a reason they call it "Twitter". nt DCKit May 2013 #7

I bet bicyclists delay her a few seconds at most. Hardly deserving of assault, hit/run, etc Hoyt May 2013 #8

she brings up a good point though. how to tax cyclists. nt galileoreloaded May 2013 #9

Quite possible cyclists save more tax money than they would be taxed. HooptieWagon May 2013 #10

totally disagree galileoreloaded May 2013 #11

most people who have never got up off their lazy ass might agree about that entitlement.. frylock May 2013 #14

irrational? galileoreloaded May 2013 #16

Holy shit your comments are stupid and ignorant. Dawgs May 2013 #18

If there's anything worse than cyclists, it's readers. EOTE May 2013 #62

This guy has no idea what he's talking about DisgustipatedinCA May 2013 #83

There's dumber shit on DU Major Nikon May 2013 #136

You live in Arizona Spider Jerusalem May 2013 #19

Agreed. I see a LOT more idiot drivers than idiot cyclists. nt HooptieWagon May 2013 #68

My area has bike lanes, crosswalks for the blind and sidewalks for wheelchair travelers. freshwest May 2013 #123

I commute to work by bike because I DON'T have a car. I'M not the asshole in this picture. kestrel91316 May 2013 #22

I don't know where you live, Jenoch May 2013 #134

Which are not nearly high enough Major Nikon May 2013 #137

The gas tax is regressive. Jenoch May 2013 #139

what were those things being made in osceola indiana then? sigmasix May 2013 #143

When was the last time you spoke Jenoch May 2013 #150

Well, the federal government kicks in when it comes to highways, don't they? MADem May 2013 #146

...except when you're poor and can only afford a bicycle. Cooley Hurd May 2013 #23

It lives in AZ, explains alot why the state is so screwed up. Katashi_itto May 2013 #25

I also live in Arizona. jzola May 2013 #43

Might I suggest that a mirror would be both accurate and apt at this precise moment in time...? LanternWaste May 2013 #30

I actually agree with you. LancetChick May 2013 #46

Post removed Post removed May 2013 #84

Hey, LancetChick. bvar22 May 2013 #91

if you have fantasies about side-swiping them, that's your problem. HiPointDem May 2013 #130

I've never put anyone on ignore before but, progressoid May 2013 #53

I Understand! Did You Read The Other Comment About Wanting To Side Swipe Cyclists? HangOnKids May 2013 #55

FYI LancetChick May 2013 #69

You Said Fantasize Not Imagining HangOnKids May 2013 #72

On the occasions I encounter an idiot cyclist, I'm thankful they're not in a car... HooptieWagon May 2013 #79

On the occasions I encounter an idiot driver, I wish they were on a bicycle Major Nikon May 2013 #142

I'm fantasizing about you starring in an Al Queda video cliffordu May 2013 #96

it's pretty close. that you entertain such fantasies says something about your thought processes. HiPointDem May 2013 #131

Not so much really Major Nikon May 2013 #140

Yeah, I saw that too. progressoid May 2013 #90

How about the kids just riding their bikes to school? blueamy66 May 2013 #73

That's like saying that car driving is a rich man's sport sufrommich May 2013 #75

Not rich and not a man a la izquierda May 2013 #76

I ride everywhere I go - haven't owned a car for 30 of the last 35 years or so. cliffordu May 2013 #94

I'm still using the same bicycle I bought 26 years ago, used, for $350 Art_from_Ark May 2013 #133

What leads you to that premise? LanternWaste May 2013 #29

Also... GoCubsGo May 2013 #100

Me. I am. cliffordu May 2013 #103

Forget it, he's rolling... Blue_Tires May 2013 #113

I agree with you about bike lanes. TekGryphon May 2013 #37

This problem is also being considered for electric vehicles since they don't pay a fuel tax. progressoid May 2013 #52

And the cost of those bike lanes is more than offset by the savings detailed by HooptieWagon. Gormy Cuss May 2013 #50

Every bike in a bike lane is one less car/bike in front of you... tinrobot May 2013 #63

I certainly wouldn't "admit" that. Marr May 2013 #85

Let me get this straight. You want to tax bicyclists because they "sport an entitlement rhett o rick May 2013 #87

Please post a source that the bike lane costs are "wholly born by motorists" Blue_Tires May 2013 #95

please show me an apportionment of lane costs to a galileoreloaded May 2013 #97

Here in Virginia Beach (quick example) Blue_Tires May 2013 #101

so 95% of citizens paid for a benefit only 5% of people use? thats my ENTIRE point galileoreloaded May 2013 #106

So you think only the 1% should have bikes Travis_0004 May 2013 #108

im saying that the dipshits riding their $6000 carbon roadbikes ARE galileoreloaded May 2013 #114

My experience is the exact opposite Travis_0004 May 2013 #115

Yes, ALL cyclist are either homeless or racers U4ikLefty May 2013 #119

No, about 70-80% of residents paid for something 100% COULD use if they wanted... Blue_Tires May 2013 #111

the roads need to be maintained for them as well as cars - make them license their bikes leftyohiolib May 2013 #15

OK. Then send the bill for Oil Wars and enviromental damage to car owners. HooptieWagon May 2013 #24

If oil were only used for cars, that might make sense Orrex May 2013 #27

This is true pokerfan May 2013 #49

Thanks for that Orrex May 2013 #54

Only a small percentage (two thirds) used for transportation.... HooptieWagon May 2013 #60

Can't sarcasm be implied? pokerfan May 2013 #74

I sensed it as sarcasm, some peep might not... nt HooptieWagon May 2013 #78

My posts are for smart people pokerfan May 2013 #88

ok that's done now go get your bike license and stop being ridiculous leftyohiolib May 2013 #28

A lefty that denigrates transportation by bike. EOTE May 2013 #67

Look at its name: lefty tends to be a perjorative used by the RW, and I have noticed that most DUers kestrel91316 May 2013 #34

The rather large majority of adult cyclists also own cars. Lizzie Poppet May 2013 #77

Yes, and we pay taxes. And we have the law on our side. DisgustipatedinCA May 2013 #86

why? because my 25 lb bike causes so much damage to the road? frylock May 2013 #13

While we're at it, we need to tax pedestrians, too. They use the sidewalks and DON'T EVEN PAY FOR kestrel91316 May 2013 #21

You're right. We should have toll sidewalks to recoup the costs. Gormy Cuss May 2013 #51

Toll sewers, Toll water fountains, Toll house cookies . . . . ChairmanAgnostic May 2013 #59

I pay for my sewers, based on my domestic water consumption. Throckmorton May 2013 #128

Pedestrians need to be licensed and pay a higher rate than car drivers/autos. kestrel91316 May 2013 #117

Just as soon as the hidden subsidies to the trucking industry stop. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #39

I am taxed through property taxes that go to the town highway department that builds local roads. PoliticAverse May 2013 #41

As a driver and cyclist, I already pay taxes. What more do you want from me? DisgustipatedinCA May 2013 #82

I would bet most people who ride bicycles also drive. Incitatus May 2013 #160

Because we cause such wear and tear on the roads?? [nt] Jester Messiah May 2013 #104

If the cyclist or his family own a car, they are already tblue37 May 2013 #125

Yeah, man, need to tax the walkers too. JackRiddler May 2013 #168

Chicago has tilted way over in favor of bikes over cars. Peregrine Took May 2013 #12

Riding on a non-bike lane street? Of course they are. As long as it's a public, local access road Gormy Cuss May 2013 #57

Why is everybody so obsessed with cyclist running stop signs? Travis_0004 May 2013 #148

Idaho has it right. Gormy Cuss May 2013 #151

This is why my bike is rotting in my garage. GoCubsGo May 2013 #20

Wow. The only thing I've ever done to a cyclist was cui bono May 2013 #61

I have had cups of soft drinks/ice heaved at me, among other things. GoCubsGo May 2013 #99

Reminds me of "Miles From Nowhere" shrike May 2013 #124

If I may ask, what is the name of that bicycle hell hole? Art_from_Ark May 2013 #173

I stick to the bike trails. Incitatus May 2013 #161

No such thing here, sadly. GoCubsGo May 2013 #166

Arrogant cyclists 90-percent May 2013 #26

I believe arrogance is predicated on the individual rather than the vehicle... LanternWaste May 2013 #44

I agree there is plenty of arrogance to go around... deurbano May 2013 #89

That's a smart move. Always making eye contact with any driver you're approaching. calimary May 2013 #71

This is a sign of nuclear pollution RobertEarl May 2013 #31

Reality TV Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #64

I have watched the drivers in our area with bicyclist - it is scary liberal N proud May 2013 #33

this is why, on busy streets (which I try to avoid) you'll find me on the sidewalks... KG May 2013 #36

Same. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #40

Collision Type #3: __ The Crosswalk Slam kentauros May 2013 #70

Thank you. n/t Ms. Toad May 2013 #157

You're welcome :) kentauros May 2013 #158

It is amazing how many of the solutions include Ms. Toad May 2013 #159

It seems to me that the advice of "ride to the left" kentauros May 2013 #163

I've got vertigo issues - Ms. Toad May 2013 #164

I'm taking brisk walks in the evenings right now, kentauros May 2013 #165

A professional bike adjustment might be in order. Ms. Toad May 2013 #167

Thank you. I was almost run over when deciding to take a shortcut on a sidewalk. Dawgs May 2013 #171

You're welcome :) kentauros May 2013 #172

Emma Way stupid! Baitball Blogger May 2013 #42

Stay out of Emma's Way pokerfan May 2013 #47

Reminds me of another woman . . . another_liberal May 2013 #45

I thought for sure I was onethatcares May 2013 #107

They really hushed that one up! another_liberal May 2013 #110

not much really, onethatcares May 2013 #116

I'll use the site search. another_liberal May 2013 #118

She definitely sulphurdunn May 2013 #56

What an idiot! gopiscrap May 2013 #65

I guess that deserves the stupid crook award for the day Jack Rabbit May 2013 #66

Young and stupid is a dangerous combination! redstatebluegirl May 2013 #80

Somebody will marry this fool and then spend time cleaning up after her... Tikki May 2013 #81

It's hard to believe anyone is that stupid kudzu22 May 2013 #92

Social media claims another dumbass. Initech May 2013 #93

Enjoy the slammer, kid nt Dreamer Tatum May 2013 #98

The thinly veiled attempt at creating a 'gotcha' thread is duely noted. Earth_First May 2013 #102

If you think the OP is out of line, you're free to alert pokerfan May 2013 #109

i don't understand what the problem is, it's not like the subject line was misleading JI7 May 2013 #129

I've been irritated by motorists as a cyclist, and irritated by cyclists as a motorist. nomorenomore08 May 2013 #105

A twofer. A jerk and an idiot. nt City Lights May 2013 #112

her lack of concern for the cyclist is extremely disturbing Skittles May 2013 #120

'Cycle tweet' girl breaks her silence pokerfan May 2013 #122

Too bad for her that screenshots of her tweet are out there... HooptieWagon May 2013 #152

But she's sorry pokerfan May 2013 #153

Yep, sorry she got caught. HooptieWagon May 2013 #154

Cuff 'er and stuff 'er, guk-yuk-yuk-yuk. Deep13 May 2013 #126

omg! "i have right of way"? well, i guess you're free to run over people... HiPointDem May 2013 #127

listening to her on video, it seems she has a posh/upperclass accent... HiPointDem May 2013 #132

Most of what I see in the comments to this OP defacto7 May 2013 #135

In 2010, pitbulls claimed the lives of 22 people in the US kenny blankenship May 2013 #138

Well, according to that link, motor vehicles killed those cyclists... MADem May 2013 #147

That's kinda being stupid to act smart kenny blankenship May 2013 #149

What a petty little remark, that! So hostile! MADem May 2013 #156

No. 618 Is how many bicyclist were killed. Not how many killed. Luminous Animal May 2013 #162

Fortunately she is in the extreme minority bhikkhu May 2013 #141

Unfortunately not. HooptieWagon May 2013 #155

this is humanity stuntcat May 2013 #169