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Colorado man opens fire on officer with AR-15 at traffic stop for no headlights [View all] xchrom May 2013 OP

Yep, everybody should be armed to the teeth because you might sinkingfeeling May 2013 #1

That's right! You never know when the Gubberment will send the Police.... Walk away May 2013 #4

Now, give the guy a break! KansDem May 2013 #64

Yes, if only the two people at the scene had more, more, more guns on hand valerief May 2013 #81

Kinda funny, ain' it??? Plucketeer May 2013 #90

Good point! nt tblue May 2013 #97

Very good point! nt caledesi May 2013 #117

i hope his gun was registered tiny elvis May 2013 #213

They're always "law-abiding gun-owners"---until they're not. WinkyDink May 2013 #2

Everybody's law abiding until they're not, premium May 2013 #11

When you cram a gun down your pants, or put one in your car -- you are no longer "responsible" IMO. Hoyt May 2013 #80

Same ole Hoyt. premium May 2013 #86

With regards to many things adieu May 2013 #88

And guess what? premium May 2013 #94

Neener Neener Neener otohara May 2013 #152

21 for a handgun premium May 2013 #155

Does That Include Assault Rifles? otohara May 2013 #167

Assault rifles are very tightly regulated, premium May 2013 #168

Hey, don't you care about his feelings? Pelican May 2013 #217

Are you a republican? Kingofalldems May 2013 #225

You're responsible until you act irresponsibly. Megalo_Man May 2013 #100

And carrying a gun, prepared to shoot someone is irresponsible. No way around that. Hoyt May 2013 #105

Got four of your talking points in on that one. rl6214 May 2013 #108

Yeah, he's very adept at that, huh? premium May 2013 #112

LOL! billh58 May 2013 #125

Back atcha buddy, premium May 2013 #127

We're all very impressed with your wit and wisdom... truebluegreen May 2013 #156

As am I. nt. premium May 2013 #160

Thought it was obvious to just about everybody, truebluegreen May 2013 #161

Uh huh. nt. premium May 2013 #165

Ah! There you go! truebluegreen May 2013 #198

Thank you premium May 2013 #199

Nice try. truebluegreen May 2013 #201

Probably, premium May 2013 #202

Gosh, you are just sooooo witty! truebluegreen May 2013 #204

This message was self-deleted by its author truebluegreen May 2013 #200

Why are you attacking a loyal DU member? Kingofalldems May 2013 #154

What business is it of yours? nt. premium May 2013 #157

I just made it my business. Kingofalldems May 2013 #158

Well, I don't recognize it as your business. premium May 2013 #162

Sure. Kingofalldems May 2013 #164

Snappy comeback. nt. premium May 2013 #166

If I were you, I wouldn't run to the admins either. Robb May 2013 #189

The admins probably have you on their radar anyway. JimDandy May 2013 #194

when a relative new-comer starts attacking a long-time member, some of us tend to get a little niyad May 2013 #193

It would be irresponsible to *not* do most of those things. Megalo_Man May 2013 #115

Another irrational gunner. How much time to you spend preparing for these highly unlikely events. Hoyt May 2013 #144

I have actually been in.one.of those.highly unlikely.events. Megalo_Man May 2013 #174

Do your guns add to your Megalo-self-image? Hoyt May 2013 #176

Go Hoyt! Hammer em... xtraxritical May 2013 #121

Yeah, he's about as credible as, premium May 2013 #129

Nope - never killed anyone, never practiced to kill anyone, don't pick up guns and say, "wow, I bet Hoyt May 2013 #143

This message was self-deleted by its author premium May 2013 #145

+1000 truebluegreen May 2013 #159

You've claimed elsewhere that you know how to fieldstrip a handgun at age 8 friendly_iconoclast May 2013 #175

Well past 8 now, and have outgrown the need for lethal weapons and gun toys. Hoyt May 2013 #180

You contradict yourself, Hoyt-you learned how to shoot that Army-issued gun... friendly_iconoclast May 2013 #181

How's that? Hoyt May 2013 #184

You don't *get* to have your pronouncements taken on faith, Hoyt friendly_iconoclast May 2013 #186

You are right, if it's not from the NRA or gun cultists, it cannot be right. Hoyt May 2013 #187

It's only right if it's shown to be right-and you don't do that friendly_iconoclast May 2013 #208

At least my opinion is not based upon an unhealthy attraction to guns. Hoyt May 2013 #209

Just to check... Pelican May 2013 #228

Not Hoyt, premium May 2013 #229

I doubt he crammed his gun down his pants rl6214 May 2013 #106

Sorry, I am not familiar with where/how you guys tuck your guns when going out into public. Hoyt May 2013 #150

Guns In Cars = Road Rage otohara May 2013 #149

Interesting you mention that. NRA President Keene's son - raised in gun culture - was convicted Hoyt May 2013 #151

I Took My Obama Sticker Off otohara May 2013 #163

Thank you for actually supporting my point. And we arrest drunk drivers, accident or no. WinkyDink May 2013 #206

That's the exact problem . .. HughBeaumont May 2013 #13

And a bank robber anda rapist and a murderer are all law abiding until their not! rl6214 May 2013 #31

Which kills the argument that "Any gun should be sold to responsible gun owners." WinkyDink May 2013 #207

why do people think they mikeysnot May 2013 #3

It couldn't ave been, the officer survived and the perp died. rl6214 May 2013 #33

I am not anti-gun... caledesi May 2013 #135

Where were the Pit bulls?? nt Eleanors38 May 2013 #5

Oh you just had to got there! Haha. Agschmid May 2013 #8

! xchrom May 2013 #9

At the Olive Garden ... getting circumcised. 11 Bravo May 2013 #76

While breastfeeding immunized children! n /t Horse with no Name May 2013 #92

Dining on spotted owl with Wolf sauce riqster May 2013 #136

Did anyone hold the door for them? KansDem May 2013 #179

Yes, a swarthy individual riqster May 2013 #185

we have strayed from "well-regulated militias" Enrique May 2013 #6

Shhh...they don't like for that to be pointed out AndyA May 2013 #72

Pssst, you don't know what we'll regulated militia really means. rl6214 May 2013 #109

That's BS and you know it AndyA May 2013 #124

Excuse me!!!!! LongTomH May 2013 #153

That part WAS also to make sure those citizens enrolled in the militias, jmg257 May 2013 #171

pssst--you might want to learn the proper use of contractions, apostrophes, and hyphens. niyad May 2013 #191

"..our Constitution guarantees our individual right to bear arms" - Barack Obama May 2013 hack89 May 2013 #133

Let's post the full quote. Hoyt May 2013 #172

Which has nothing to do with the 2A applying solely to militias - correct? nt hack89 May 2013 #173

What "militias" , and when was set one raised ? pkdu May 2013 #227

let's see--2;15 am, no headlights, idiot fires multiple rounds, did not hit the officer. so, an niyad May 2013 #7

Yup! BrotherIvan May 2013 #15

Or the less obvious. zeemike May 2013 #83

AR-15's are not automatic weapons, premium May 2013 #87

Semi auto rl6214 May 2013 #110

More likely he was drunk at 2 a.m. JimDandy May 2013 #128

Well I guess he showed Johnny Law who was boss. Robb May 2013 #10

Darwin is still deciding malaise May 2013 #21

This is an example of why we're seeing the undesirable militarization of the police function. byeya May 2013 #22

Every deer rifle is 'armor piercing'. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #55

Couldn't have been an AR15, you anti gun zealots all say the AR15 kill is everyone rl6214 May 2013 #38

You have to hit something first. n/t mattclearing May 2013 #50

But,but,but if you're spray firing from the hip with a hi capacity assault clip rl6214 May 2013 #98

Another victim of false advertising. mattclearing May 2013 #113

Hampered at 2 a.m. by the dark and probable JimDandy May 2013 #146

Yeah, NRA training at work Progressive dog May 2013 #53

I always suspected that AtheistCrusader May 2013 #57

Wasn't it because the TEC-9 ejected the brass straight up and back? Recursion May 2013 #70

I've never fired one, but from my impression of the quality of the design AtheistCrusader May 2013 #126

Maybe it's to increase collateral damage. Progressive dog May 2013 #73

I don't think either of them were the originators of that practice. rl6214 May 2013 #111

sentence structure, or reasoning for that matter, aren't really your strong suits.. frylock May 2013 #77

Post removed Post removed May 2013 #99

Dark outside and probably drunk at 2 a.m. JimDandy May 2013 #139

The interesting thing here seems to me to be MineralMan May 2013 #12

perhaps not a threat to law enforcement, but maybe one to innocent bystanders. niyad May 2013 #14

Yes, of course. I'm really talking, though, about MineralMan May 2013 #16

Not a real threat? BrotherIvan May 2013 #17

What "militia types" has walked into schools or movie theaters or mall and premium May 2013 #18

I characterize those who stockpile weapons BrotherIvan May 2013 #25

Adam Lanza, James Holmes and Seung-Hui Cho were not "militia-types." hack89 May 2013 #28

And thinking one has to stockpile weapons in the bunker BrotherIvan May 2013 #35

We were talking about people that carry out mass slaughter hack89 May 2013 #48

true militia member ??????? dothemath May 2013 #114

What is a 'true militia member'? Damn good question hack89 May 2013 #130

Little correction sarisataka May 2013 #141

Wanted to add BrotherIvan May 2013 #26

Then again, premium May 2013 #32

"Stockpiling weapons is not necessarily a sign of mental illness..." BrotherIvan May 2013 #37

Yeah, I did, premium May 2013 #43

Do you think it is? Recursion May 2013 #68

Stockpiling weapons =/= collecting BrotherIvan May 2013 #75

The difference between a "collection" and a "stockpile" or "hoard" is rhetorical. Recursion May 2013 #78

Ah, we are blessed by the presence of another telepsychologist friendly_iconoclast May 2013 #177

Didn't technically commit it. Crunchy Frog May 2013 #120

You may be right. premium May 2013 #123

Nah, they use bombs like McVeigh Progressive dog May 2013 #69

That's not what the poster I replied to said, but then you know that, huh. nt. premium May 2013 #79

The poster said militia types Progressive dog May 2013 #103

Ok, fair enough. premium May 2013 #104

I'm not talking about random shooters in mass shootings. MineralMan May 2013 #19

Caterwauling from Gun Enthusiasts re "AR-15-style rifle" in 3..2..1... Paladin May 2013 #20

Why? That's a good description Recursion May 2013 #39

Surely you jest. Paladin May 2013 #62

Nope. People complain about misuse of the phrases "assault rifle" and "assault weapon" mostly Recursion May 2013 #65

Who cares? This perp obviously acquired his AR-15 to use as an assault weapon. Most do I think. Hoyt May 2013 #84

And that usage is acceptable. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #119

The primary objection is usually made when AtheistCrusader May 2013 #118

Actually there's nothing wrong with that description. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #60

Surely you jest. (nt) Paladin May 2013 #66

You have two "gun" people saying the description is accurate and none complaining like you predicted Recursion May 2013 #67

Oh, it tells me plenty. (nt) Paladin May 2013 #101

Hopefully it told you AtheistCrusader May 2013 #122

Not even close. But thanks for playing. (nt) Paladin May 2013 #138

Hope springs eternal. Maybe someday you will. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #140

How many more incidents must we go through... Pragdem May 2013 #23

Drunk and stupid's no way to go thru life son One_Life_To_Give May 2013 #24

Ok, that made me laugh BrotherIvan May 2013 #30

Might have been an attempt at AtheistCrusader May 2013 #61

Doubtful. Drunk, dark and inexperienced is more likely JimDandy May 2013 #169

Well, it's not inconsistent with a suicide by cop. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #170

A police car spotlight in the dark appears to have blinded the gunman JimDandy May 2013 #197

I thought this wouldn't happen if you were carrying a gun liberal N proud May 2013 #27

There is no way...don't you know nobody survives an assault by someone rl6214 May 2013 #29

Is basic writing no longer taught in schools? Nimajneb Nilknarf May 2013 #34

What was wrong with the writing in the article? Recursion May 2013 #40

The subject line has a misplaced modifier Nimajneb Nilknarf May 2013 #41

Threw the cow over the fence some hay. Robb May 2013 #44

The piano was sold to the woman with spindly legs Nimajneb Nilknarf May 2013 #47

This is precisely the sort of errant pedantry up with which I will not put! 11 Bravo May 2013 #82

Oh, right. Duh. To think I used to copy-edit Recursion May 2013 #46

Headlines often are written by others; an editor maybe. Buzz Clik May 2013 #51

I see what you mean... Bay Boy May 2013 #54

The officer brandishing a repeating breech-loading rifle musket would seem an over-reaction Nimajneb Nilknarf May 2013 #58

Yep. Reading, too. Buzz Clik May 2013 #42

It's unfortunate that someone with weak writing skills can get a job writing newspaper articles Nimajneb Nilknarf May 2013 #45

For Rimjob's sake, I hope he already donated to the freeper 2nd quarter fund drive. denverbill May 2013 #36

I pray that the Holy AR15 was not harmed jpak May 2013 #49

We need to find a way to allow guns to have guns to protect themselves. Buzz Clik May 2013 #52

Sounds like a "suicide by cop" case. FarCenter May 2013 #56

I have hundreds of gun threads trashed, but this one points out one of the ignored Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #59

Okay so let's think about this... Javaman May 2013 #63

This is why we need MOAR GUNZ!!!!!! kestrel91316 May 2013 #71

Driving without headlights? EC May 2013 #74

Perfect Timing - Lawsuit by 50 Colo Sheriffs otohara May 2013 #85

Clearly, he thought the officer was out of line by stopping him Horse with no Name May 2013 #89

Anyone Esle Ever Notice That Caeser67 May 2013 #91

Something is wrong with this picture. sulphurdunn May 2013 #93

I'd assume alcohol was involved MiniMe May 2013 #116

That would explain it. sulphurdunn May 2013 #132

What's wrong with it? If you're an idiot and believe reality is like a video game Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #142

Possibly, sulphurdunn May 2013 #147

Rifles aren't very useful when you're close to someone Recursion May 2013 #148

No offense, sulphurdunn May 2013 #190

well, no Recursion May 2013 #210

I fought in Vietnam sulphurdunn May 2013 #211

Well, I fought in Iraq and I say the opposite Recursion May 2013 #214

I think the shorter sulphurdunn May 2013 #215

Semper fi too Recursion May 2013 #216

It must be something sulphurdunn May 2013 #218

Nam vet here also, premium May 2013 #219

Yea, we called 'em sulphurdunn May 2013 #221

M-79. premium May 2013 #222

Right. M-79 not 72 sulphurdunn May 2013 #223

You're correct. premium May 2013 #224

The Muj had 9's, and knew how to use them Recursion May 2013 #220

Local story for me. The AR-15 guy has several alcohol offenses on his record. politicat May 2013 #183

thank you for the link. niyad May 2013 #195

No more guns for him. BVictor1 May 2013 #95

Very pleased the officer was not physically injured The Second Stone May 2013 #96

Yay, Freedom! Arugula Latte May 2013 #102

2nd Time This Month DallasNE May 2013 #107

law abiding responsible gun owner sigmasix May 2013 #131

What law that the NRA opposes would have prevented this? (nt) Recursion May 2013 #134

TLDR. Paragraph breaks are your friend. nt rrneck May 2013 #137

If only that policeman had been armed... Arkana May 2013 #178

Ummm... the guy the cop shot got hurt (nt) Recursion May 2013 #182

'no one tells a true hero of the 2nd amendment that they need headlights to drive. no one!' KG May 2013 #188

I can't believe the guy missed with an AR-15. It's one of the easiest firearms to shoot. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #192

See post 197. JimDandy May 2013 #203

maybe he didn't really shoot? maybe the story is not as published? HiPointDem May 2013 #212

(2:15 am) "here, hold my beer. What did you say?" librechik May 2013 #196

Lucky officer....... Historic NY May 2013 #205

The revolution against oppressive headlight requirements has begun! Deep13 May 2013 #226