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timdog44

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41. Of course

Fri May 24, 2013, 09:25 AM

May 2013

if drugs were legal, there would be no cartels on the borders.

I think that the more something is illegal, the more it is enticing to use. This is a perfect opportunity for parental education about the dos and don'ts of things. Something that does not seem to happen much any more. I am not arguing that there would not be some kids who "fall between the cracks" but at least they would not be made to be criminals. And treatment options would be much more acceptable. Don't get me wrong, I am a little conflicted on this making all drugs legal thing. Some of them are horrible. But I always keep in the back of my mind that from what I understand, legitimate pharmaceuticals kill more people in the US than the illegal ones do. Just some thoughts, not arguments.

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The real reasons why the Federal government does not want to legalize drugs [View all] TakeALeftTurn May 2013 OP

Stop making sense! burnodo May 2013 #1

If you want to radically change something for the better TakeALeftTurn May 2013 #2

It would be much better to line up the forces of the rest of Corporate America TakeALeftTurn May 2013 #3

Similarly it would be much better to try and harness the power of the other unions TakeALeftTurn May 2013 #4

United Food & Commercial Workers Union duhneece May 2013 #9

Great example TakeALeftTurn May 2013 #11

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I got training, have been very active in my county duhneece May 2013 #6

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My apologies for the length of the Op-Ed above TakeALeftTurn May 2013 #7

Excellent research and documentation. Thanks for sharing it. nt Live and Learn May 2013 #65

I thought it was one of the best posts I've seen on this site in truedelphi May 2013 #69

Don't apologize for an excellent post. you are correct, it is a collaborative screwing Dragonfli May 2013 #76

Cannabis prohibition is also supported by the growers. Jesus Malverde May 2013 #8

An important issue with this piecemeal legalization around the country. AllyCat May 2013 #48

Making sense once more and I'm loving it madokie May 2013 #12

Thanks very much for the terrific compliment TakeALeftTurn May 2013 #16

+1. HiPointDem May 2013 #37

takealeftturn, thank you for compiling all of this information. dotymed May 2013 #15

Yep TakeALeftTurn May 2013 #19

None of this could stand up to the public's demand to change it. randome May 2013 #17

Take a look into the experiences of Portugal over the last 10 years TakeALeftTurn May 2013 #22

Sure, it's worth looking at. But there are a lot of differences between Portugal and America, too. randome May 2013 #24

Of course timdog44 May 2013 #41

I think they wouldn't be drug cartels. They would simply morph into something else. randome May 2013 #55

Kids get drunk too TakeALeftTurn May 2013 #23

Prohibiting hard drugs doesn't keep them out of the hands of kids, either, I know. randome May 2013 #27

I bet if you have teenage kids TakeALeftTurn May 2013 #86

Really? At ANY given time, one could find all available. AllyCat May 2013 #49

We have different sets of friends, I'll wager. randome May 2013 #54

You are slamming my friends? You must just be a MUCH better person than I am. AllyCat May 2013 #81

My experience has been different.. SomethingFishy May 2013 #64

That "youthful indiscretion" is a lot more likely to "ruin their lives" if it gives them a record. nomorenomore08 May 2013 #83

Yep: banks, CIA, and big Pharma ananda May 2013 #18

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K&R forestpath May 2013 #21

A sprinkling of truth does not change conspiracy theory WooWoo BS Coyotl May 2013 #25

A sprinkling of truth? TakeALeftTurn May 2013 #28

Then call it out... daleanime May 2013 #32

Exactly TakeALeftTurn May 2013 #36

There are lots of other facts that I could of included, but didn't. TakeALeftTurn May 2013 #35

Labeling something a conspiracy theory does not make it one, weak. Enlighten us Dragonfli May 2013 #77

Conspiracy theory woowoo bs? chervilant May 2013 #85

And he did not even touch the medicinal benefits of pot. Works wonders for neuropathy which Dustlawyer May 2013 #26

The taxpayer savings of halving the prison population TakeALeftTurn May 2013 #30

Thank for posting! I tried to link it to my Facebook, but frequently the "post" button is cut Dustlawyer May 2013 #39

Cannabis doesn't cause weight gain... tridim May 2013 #52

I have neuropathy, Lunacee_2013 May 2013 #84

A must read. n/t Hotler May 2013 #29

A compelling post for anyone with their eyes open. GoneFishin May 2013 #31

I haven't heard of any shortages or fluctuations in the world's supply of opium or heroin TheDebbieDee May 2013 #33

Thank you. ctsnowman May 2013 #34

Beer companies lobby congress too B Calm May 2013 #38

I have lumped them in with the alcohol industry TakeALeftTurn May 2013 #40

Thanks for the great article. timdog44 May 2013 #42

Great TakeALeftTurn May 2013 #43

I will remember timdog44 May 2013 #45

this is great stuff (again) from you! Locrian May 2013 #50

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thanks! looking forward to it - n/t Locrian May 2013 #59

And Turkey and Israel make loads of cash and arms. Plenty material out there on how this works. kelliekat44 May 2013 #44

As per my earliest replies - we have to build a coalition of sufficient support TakeALeftTurn May 2013 #46

K&R redqueen May 2013 #47

k&r n/t RainDog May 2013 #51

would you please copy and paste this in the Drug Policy Forum here? RainDog May 2013 #53

Done TakeALeftTurn May 2013 #61

There is nothing more convincing than awful writing and editing. nt Dreamer Tatum May 2013 #56

You post nothing but snark here RainDog May 2013 #60

Or a reply that says little and means nothing. nt Live and Learn May 2013 #67

No substance, please refrain from wasting our time in future Dragonfli May 2013 #78

Excellent research. CanSocDem May 2013 #57

K&R!! felix_numinous May 2013 #62

Wow !! russspeakeasy May 2013 #63

The retired Captain ut oh May 2013 #66

It is not just the drug laws but the increase in all laws, sentences and Live and Learn May 2013 #68

I believe that at least 80% of the 'societal problems' caused by drugs are really caused by the WoD brett_jv May 2013 #70

And many of the little good citizens, the lemmings, the deer RKP5637 May 2013 #71

K and R...thanks for posting..nt Stuart G May 2013 #72

Remember that until very recently, the US government owned the patent upon cancer-cure use of Fire Walk With Me May 2013 #73

Yet another factor BlueStreak May 2013 #74

Excellent post k&r Dragonfli May 2013 #75

beSt post on this site in a long time Chaco Dundee May 2013 #79

I can tell you the real reason in one fucking word: gopiscrap May 2013 #80

+1 Or "Greed"! Live and Learn May 2013 #82

Where I live, guns are outlawed BB1 May 2013 #87