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55. The Rachel Maddow Show: Tom Coburn Caught Lying About His Role in Ensign Affair

Fri May 24, 2013, 09:31 AM

May 2013

Rachel Maddow reports on the latest news to come out of the C-Street House. It appears that Tom Coburn, despite previous denials, was allowed by John Ensign to basically negotiate his bribes for him. So much for those "family values".
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/rachel-maddow-show-tom-coburn-caught-lying

Here's a Tom Coburn quote, a quote from the President's very honest principled close personal friend, their wives are close too:

"the gay community has infiltrated the very centers of power in every area across this country and they wield extreme power. That agenda is the greatest threat to our freedom we face today. Why do you think we see the rationalization for abortion and multiple sexual partners? That’s a gay agenda."

So you are fine with love letters to homophobic Republican hate mongers, don't see a problem, you think maybe Coburn is honest because Obama endorses him.
Obama actually praises Coburn and Coburn's 'values' and his work in the Senate. All of that is fine with you. Gay agenda, you think that he might be right about that.

And your link said nothing about Benjamin at all. What you are snarfing about I have no idea at all. Clearly you are deeply outraged, but just as clearly you can not explain why.
Something about endorsing a person being a universal endorsement, except when Obama endorses Coburn in Time Magazine, in detail and with great personal affection.
Your double standard is appalling, but your baseless attacks on Benjamin are worse. Makes you seem hypocritical now that you are a goodsie with the Coburn Loyalty Hymn.

I've edited to add your question from upthread, can not see how you can hold that position then dismiss a love letter to Coburn:
patrice:"'Do we agree that any political support for Rand Paul, intentionally or not, supports his agenda? ..."

Yet a love letter to Coburn is 'understandable' because Coburn is 'just' anti gay and anti person?
Double standards and strained logic....

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Medea Benjamin is a hypocrite helping Rand Paul protect WORLD ASSAULT WEAPONS MARKETS [View all] patrice May 2013 OP

Can You Point Me, Ma'am, To Her Endorsement Of His Opposition To This Treaty? The Magistrate May 2013 #1

You'd think she would want to make that distinction clear. She hasn't. She has the spotlight now, patrice May 2013 #2

Yet You, Ma'am, Have Not Made Yourself Clear The Magistrate May 2013 #3

Do you think that her endorsement on the drone issue, without this specific exception, does not patrice May 2013 #7

Not Particularly, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2013 #8

Isn't it the responsibility of one seeking such a huge spotlight to make such far reaching claims patrice May 2013 #13

That Is A Pretty Far Stretch, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2013 #16

Not "every point of disagreement", but, YES, certainly, the most germane. & patrice May 2013 #28

I Have No Objection To The Drone Program, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2013 #30

Do we agree that any political support for Rand Paul, intentionally or not, supports his agenda? ... patrice May 2013 #4

That's another very silly claim. I can think about few people who's endorsement will cost RP a lot idwiyo May 2013 #46

if patrice refuses, maybe the 3 people (so far) who recommended this mystery thread boilerbabe May 2013 #6

Don't hold you breath. This is flamebait, nothing else. idwiyo May 2013 #18

So, you're saying wide open assault weapons markets all over Earth have nothing to do with drones?nt patrice May 2013 #21

I am saying that you are making up shit as you go. :) idwiyo May 2013 #27

Totally agree! nt City Lights May 2013 #63

Agreed....... FarPoint May 2013 #29

Can you please provide some factual support to your claim? The link you have provided has nothing idwiyo May 2013 #5

That's the same thing as saying all decisions about political support are based upon 100% knowledge patrice May 2013 #9

So, you have no proof, meaning you made it up. In which case your post is a pure flamebait. idwiyo May 2013 #17

Please address my point: Her endorsement has a positive effect on RP's whole agenda, because most patrice May 2013 #19

I already did: your post is a flamebait. If you insist it is not you must provide evidence to idwiyo May 2013 #25

I doubt that even 10% of the people who heard MB today have even the slightest inkling of a., b., c. patrice May 2013 #33

Actually you are making up shit as you go and INSIST that's what other people think/do. idwiyo May 2013 #36

Proof? Prove to me that people don't form positive associations, especially in politics, with patrice May 2013 #20

It's up to you to provide proof to your claims. Also, your demand that I prove a negative sounds idwiyo May 2013 #35

k, sorry about proving a negative! How about, just say, "People don't form positive political patrice May 2013 #38

I prefer not to make claims about how other people form political associations. I would need those idwiyo May 2013 #45

Wow... Even The President Said She Had A Valid Point... WillyT May 2013 #10

I see nothing about Medea Benjamin at the link. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #11

Medea Benjamin is a loudmouthed, disrespectful individual that should be thankful... Pragdem May 2013 #12

As Was... Mahatma Ghandi, Martin Luther King Jr., Ceasar Chavez... And Hundreds Of Others... WillyT May 2013 #14

That doesn't mean EVERY loudmouth is Mahatma Ghandi, MLK, or Ceasar Chaves. wow. patrice May 2013 #22

Yeah, he should have raised his scepter woo me with science May 2013 #15

Cmon, say it. You know you want to. Canuckistanian May 2013 #24

Have you ever met Medea? FarPoint May 2013 #32

I read the title on the latest page and thought: Warren Stupidity May 2013 #23

your attempt at alliteration was affirmed KG May 2013 #26

Address the point: RP gets political benefit to his whole agenda because of a favorable endoresement patrice May 2013 #31

Your "point" is pure BS unless you can prove it. :) idwiyo May 2013 #37

What do you have to say of this favorable endorsement of Tom Coburn? Bluenorthwest May 2013 #44

I admire that someone doesn't think a friend's honest disagreement makes that person a bad patrice May 2013 #47

The Rachel Maddow Show: Tom Coburn Caught Lying About His Role in Ensign Affair Bluenorthwest May 2013 #55

Well, honesty is a criteria for positive regard, so now PO needs to re-assess his sense of TC. patrice May 2013 #77

I fully addressed the point you were making. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #54

This is a BS thread. OP ought to delete this crap. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #34

It's BS to say "People form positive political associations on little or no information"? Yes or no? patrice May 2013 #39

When you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #40

Why can't I get anyone to answer a simple question: Do people form positive political associations patrice May 2013 #41

You formed this OP out of no information at all, so I guess anything goes. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #43

No it doesn't answer. You are evading. Once again: Do people form positive political associations patrice May 2013 #48

Upthread you claim that utter praise for Coburn does not form postive political associations when Bluenorthwest May 2013 #59

It doesn't form positive associations with me because I KNOW about TC. Most people probably do not patrice May 2013 #73

Just admit that you made a lot of statements based on assumptions that are not supported by facts. idwiyo May 2013 #92

Wow, this OP is a lie. This bullshit should be deleted and replaced with an apology. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #42

I look forward to Medea Benjamin doing the responsible thing & correcting my "mistake" if necessary. patrice May 2013 #49

Madea Benjamin doesn't have to correct anything vanlassie May 2013 #52

But what are you talking about patrice? Your OP is YOUR words and the link has nothing about her. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #57

Typical 'moderate centrist' expecting liberals to clean up your mistakes, mendacities and messes. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #58

It's an opinion. ucrdem May 2013 #50

an opinion based on .... ? bobduca May 2013 #60

Based on Media Benjamin's support for Ron Paul who defends the murder of innocents enabled by wide patrice May 2013 #80

Not deleted burnodo May 2013 #86

Hippie Punching bobduca May 2013 #90

she's been an attention whore from day one dlwickham May 2013 #51

Fail. Hell Hath No Fury May 2013 #53

That's nice to see. Now if Medea or CP would make some statement about that UN Treaty patrice May 2013 #69

i.e. she heckled Obama Enrique May 2013 #56

This post was alerted on. The jury voted 5/1 to let it stand. ohiosmith May 2013 #61

I'm fine with that. It keeps the record clear about who the op is and what the op's intentions are. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #65

Indeed. I'll never take this one seriously again. Marr May 2013 #67

Notice how NO ONE in this thread gave a moments consideration to a relationship between patrice May 2013 #71

Maybe because it's just a transparent and flimsy smear? /nt Marr May 2013 #83

Maybe because one or more of a whole lot of other reasons, too. Can you think of any others? patrice May 2013 #85

Smear? Has Benjamin expressed positive regard for Rand Paul? Are assault weapons markets patrice May 2013 #87

Do statements based on unsubstantiated assumptions make one look silly? Yes, they do! :) idwiyo May 2013 #93

Correction, no one in this thread gives consideration to your assumptions about relationship between idwiyo May 2013 #95

Wow this is impressive.. I never met a mind reader before... SomethingFishy May 2013 #62

I miss UNREC. City Lights May 2013 #64

You ought to be ashamed of this. Marr May 2013 #66

I'm not. I'm proud. I'm ashamed that DU insults people they don't agree with. patrice May 2013 #88

LMFAO!!! SomethingFishy May 2013 #94

You're projecting again. Marr May 2013 #98

I don't see credible evidence for your assertions. LWolf May 2013 #68

Look at all of the DU-ers who insult me, because I make a connection between drones & asault weapons patrice May 2013 #70

No dear. That's not what's happening. vanlassie May 2013 #72

Look at all the people who called you out on your baseless smear by association! bobduca May 2013 #74

Do you agree with this statement: People form positive associations for politicians based on little patrice May 2013 #75

Sure, people make associations, like 'baseless smears by association.' bobduca May 2013 #79

A real Liberal would defend those being murdered because of wide-open assault weapons markets patrice May 2013 #81

"Real Liberal" I see, but you asked me if I think Rand Paul is Liberal... Disingenuous much? bobduca May 2013 #82

Perhaps the connection between drones & assault weapons is baseless to you. It isn't to others.nt patrice May 2013 #84

you are being intentionally obtuse bobduca May 2013 #91

Uh...she was there protesting the use of drones. Nor has she ever supported assault weapons. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #76

She supports Rand Paul who supports one of the biggest causes of drone programs, wide open assault patrice May 2013 #78

Does she support the use of drones or assault weapons? Have a link to that? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #89

Gun-controllers think you are fulla beans. Take a hint. Eleanors38 May 2013 #101

Obama has repeatedly waived sanctions against countries using child soldiers. achile May 2013 #96

+1 burnodo May 2013 #100

Hearts and Flowers from Code Pink to Ron Paul davidpdx May 2013 #97

Code Pink were praising him until he stated that killing Americans by drone is okay. Fire Walk With Me May 2013 #99