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In reply to the discussion: Republicans are going crazy over the fact that Holder signed off on the warrant for Rosen's emails [View all]woo me with science
(32,139 posts)33. No. The scandal is that the warrant was sought and obtained by implicating a reporter
as a co-conspirator. The DOJ knew the identity of the leaker. They wanted more information, but in order to get it, they accused Rosen to the judge of being a co-conspirator, based solely on his normal activities as an investigative journalist:
http://theweek.com/article/index/244447/why-the-justice-department-spied-on-a-fox-news-reporter
Though investigators had already targeted Kim as the likely source of the leak, they wanted Rosen's personal emails to help build their case. However, investigators had to first convince a judge to sign off on a warrant authorizing such a search, arguing that Rosen had potentially broken the law, too, "either as an aider, abettor, and/or co-conspirator."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/a-rare-peek-into-a-justice-department-leak-probe/2013/05/19/0bc473de-be5e-11e2-97d4-a479289a31f9_story.html
"Reyes wrote that there was evidence Rosen had broken the law, 'at the very least, either as an aider, abettor and/or co-conspirator'. That fact distinguishes his case from the probe of the AP, in which the news organization is not the likely target. Using italics for emphasis, Reyes explained how Rosen allegedly used a 'covert communications plan' and quoted from an e-mail exchange between Rosen and Kim that seems to describe a secret system for passing along information. . . . However, it remains an open question whether it's ever illegal, given the First Amendment's protection of press freedom, for a reporter to solicit information. No reporter, including Rosen, has been prosecuted for doing so."
Many things nowadays are declared "legal" that shouldn't be. This is an especially chilling example.
It does not matter that the Justice Department has not charged Rosen with a crime. The point is that they implicated him in criminal wrongdoing in order to obtain a warrant that they would almost certainly not have been able to obtain had they not made the accusation.
Investigative journalists are one of our last defenses against the tyranny of government. First in Wikileaks, and now again in this case, the Obama DOJ is widening the interpretation of the law so that the mere act of soliciting and receiving information as an investigative journalist, can be considered grounds for surveillance or for accusation of a felony.
This case is rightfully chilling those involved in investigative journalism, and it should chill every single American.
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Republicans are going crazy over the fact that Holder signed off on the warrant for Rosen's emails [View all]
Cali_Democrat
May 2013
OP
Agree. I want to know why Karl Rove told Chris Matthews "Valerie Plame is fair game".
pacalo
May 2013
#6
They are conservative propagandists, shitty reporters, and horrible people.
limpyhobbler
May 2013
#9
Don't you realize another President could use this power against news reporters who you like?
limpyhobbler
May 2013
#12
Exactly. And now it's your turn to cheer on government harassment of "journalists".
limpyhobbler
May 2013
#25
It's outrageous that people don't the DOJ or the IRS to do their jobs. Not too long ago folks were
kelliekat44
May 2013
#18
It would be a scandal if the DOJ bypassed the judiciary & seized his emails without a search warrant
Cali_Democrat
May 2013
#21
No. The scandal is that the warrant was sought and obtained by implicating a reporter
woo me with science
May 2013
#33
The magistrate and the judge reviewed the legal grounds for the search warrant and approved
Cali_Democrat
May 2013
#14
The warrant identified Rosen as a possible co-conspirator. Which is bullshit.
limpyhobbler
May 2013
#26
"A reporter communicating with a source in government to receive leaked information is not
Cali_Democrat
May 2013
#29
Are you saying anytime a reporter secretly communicates with a government employee to
limpyhobbler
May 2013
#30
There is no law that says a journalist cannot receive classified information.
Cali_Democrat
May 2013
#34
"Naming someone as a co-conspirator does not mean you think they broke the law" - yes it does
limpyhobbler
May 2013
#35
There's no use trying to hide this abuse behind the mysteries and intricacies of the law.
limpyhobbler
May 2013
#37
Exactly. They claimed he conspired to commit espionage just to snoop his emails.
limpyhobbler
May 2013
#40
They named him as a possible co-conspirator and target of the investigation,
woo me with science
May 2013
#41
Anyone that goes crazy over this, right or left, is a weak-minded individual. nt
Pragdem
May 2013
#31